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Old 10-24-2014, 06:36 AM
 
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Miami should be humid subtropical.

Incidentally, New York should be humid continental.
Hey theropod, Miami is just too warm during the winter months for being humid subtropical. Hong Kong, Taipei or Houston are perfectly humid subtropical for example because of they cool winter months.
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Old 10-24-2014, 07:25 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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Hey theropod, Miami is just too warm during the winter months for being humid subtropical. Hong Kong, Taipei or Houston are perfectly humid subtropical for example because of they cool winter months.
too warm would be 80 F+ average winters, mid 70s highs and upper 50s/low 60s lows (plus possibilities of cold snaps) dont make it too warm, and make it tropical.
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Old 10-25-2014, 06:53 AM
 
Location: Segovia, central Spain, 1230 m asl, Csb Mediterranean with strong continental influence, 40º43 N
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Annual high of 24C isn't so tropical...

I believe Tenerife is the quintessential subtropical climate.
This.
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Old 10-25-2014, 11:49 AM
 
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Miami should be humid subtropical.
Not a chance. Miami is a tropical monsoon climate.

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Incidentally, New York should be humid continental.
No, it shouldn't. It has no similarities as other cities with that classification.
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Old 10-25-2014, 11:50 AM
 
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Miami should be Humid Subtropical
Miami doesn't get cool during the winter... at all.

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Washington DC isnt Humid Subtropical
Yes, it is.

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New York City should be Humid continental
No, it shouldn't. Too humid and too warm.
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Old 10-25-2014, 12:19 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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Miami doesn't get cool during the winter... at all.



Yes, it is.



No, it shouldn't. Too humid and too warm.
Miami drops to 40s every winter. that is cold. drops to 30s every two winters, thats freezing.

Climates that experience winters like New York cant be called subtropical, that is laughable, that would make Atlanta Tropical then. too warm for what, 82 F and humid isnt too warm, that is what Honolulu gets in Winter .same for Washington DC, too cold. go to New York and DC in winter and try to convince yourself that they are subtropical.

new york is warm and humid for 2 months, DC for 3 months, gues what there are 10 and 9 more months in the year (respectively), 4 of which average 30s and 20s lows (NY and DC).
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Old 10-25-2014, 01:09 PM
 
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Miami drops to 40s every winter. that is cold. drops to 30s every two winters, thats freezing.
Miami's average overnight low in January is 60F and the average high is 76 F. If they were judged by averages, its clearly a wet-and-dry tropical climate. The only reason it gets classified as subtropical is their cold snaps are much more of a deviation from the norm than they would be in true tropical or even oceanic climates. They are short lived though. Here's an example of a strong cold snap that happens once every 5 years: 52/35 one day, 59/43 next day, then 65/49 the following day and then finally back to the average of mid to upper 70s by day and upper 50s to low 60s by night.

L.A is more consistent with mid to upper 60s during the day and mid 40s at night with occasional warm spells of 80 + and our cold snaps only being 10 degrees colder than normal. Also during our rainy days, the nights are more like upper 40s to low 50s and days are more like low 60s.

Miami's winters are definitely more "tropical" than L.A's for sure.
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Old 10-25-2014, 01:22 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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Miami's average overnight low in January is 60F and the average high is 76 F. If they were judged by averages, its clearly a wet-and-dry tropical climate. The only reason it gets classified as subtropical is their cold snaps are much more of a deviation from the norm than they would be in true tropical or even oceanic climates. They are short lived though. Here's an example of a strong cold snap that happens once every 5 years: 52/35 one day, 59/43 next day, then 65/49 the following day and then finally back to the average of mid to upper 70s by day and upper 50s to low 60s by night.

L.A is more consistent with mid to upper 60s during the day and mid 40s at night with occasional warm spells of 80 + and our cold snaps only being 10 degrees colder than normal. Also during our rainy days, the nights are more like upper 40s to low 50s and days are more like low 60s.

Miami's winters are definitely more "tropical" than L.A's for sure.
some sites say 74 others say 76 F, and some say 59 and others say 60, its really the same. i wouldnt say every 5 years, as this year ( a unusually hot one for Miami too)(jan i think it was), they saw days like you said above with the exception of 30s, low being something like 42 or something.
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Old 10-27-2014, 07:25 PM
 
Location: Shrewsbury UK
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Tenerife at sea level is tropical- every month is above 18C on average, and the highs in summer are close to 30C. This is subtropical:

Raoul Island - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Old 10-27-2014, 10:07 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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Tenerife at sea level is tropical- every month is above 18C on average, and the highs in summer are close to 30C. This is subtropical:

Raoul Island - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
temps purely dont make a place tropical though, there are other factors to take into account not only temps, if that were the case many places in LA could be considered tropical so could Coachella Valley...

that being said after looking at the Tenerife data, it looks subtropical to me, but this has to be on the higher end of subtropical. its debatable.

one question, what are the record lows for tenerife?
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