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Old 02-08-2015, 06:30 PM
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I'm guessing such a climate has existed in the earth's past. Lower midlatitude climate in the last glaciation? Some place in the US south might have had been chilled most of the year but had a hot summer maybe if the weather flow was from the Gulf of Mexico. Or somewhere in China?

Or perhaps much longer ago when there's a big continent so somewhere there was more continental climate. Warmer Arctic Ocean?
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Old 06-07-2018, 01:48 AM
 
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Sorry to bring this post back from the dead but I have a question.
Do you guys think with rising temperatures Yakutsk will eventually become a so-called "Hot summer sub-arctic" climate? Or do you think that since both July and May are 2.5 degrees below the current thresholds that May will warm up faster pushing it out of the subarctic climate zone and into an insanely cold winter continental climate? Also in order for it to make it to this new classification how much of its winter cold do you think it would lose since winters would obviously warm by more than the 2.5 degrees in summer?
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Old 06-07-2018, 06:37 PM
 
Location: Seattle WA, USA
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It probably doesn't exist, but here are the places that have a highest mean >19C and has 4 or less months with a mean >10C

City: Jul mean | Jul high | number of months >10C (Climate classification)

Ulan-Ude: 19.8C | 26.6C | 4 (Bsk)
Krasnokamensk: 19.8C | 26.0C | 3 (Dwc?)
Borzya: 19.5C | 25.9C | 3 (Dwc)
Yakutsk: 19.5C | 25.5C | 3 (Dfd)
Sretensk: 19.1C | 26.2C | 3 | (Dwc)

If it does it exist (very unlikely) it's most likely going to be somewhere in the area where Siberia Mongolia and Manchuria meet.
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Old 06-07-2018, 07:03 PM
 
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Sorry to bring this post back from the dead but I have a question.
Do you guys think with rising temperatures Yakutsk will eventually become a so-called "Hot summer sub-arctic" climate? Or do you think that since both July and May are 2.5 degrees below the current thresholds that May will warm up faster pushing it out of the subarctic climate zone and into an insanely cold winter continental climate? Also in order for it to make it to this new classification how much of its winter cold do you think it would lose since winters would obviously warm by more than the 2.5 degrees in summer?
Something that I think might make a big impact possibly a bigger impact than global warming is the urban heat island effect. Yakutsk is a sizable city and quickly growing on top of that. In 2010 Yakutsk had 269,601 people, in 2017 307,911, an increase of 38,310 or +14.21%. In 2000 Yakutsk had 195,400 people, an increase of 112,511 or +57.5% since 2000. I think one of the biggest effects will be an increase of summer night temperatures, especially since they are so short, with warmer nights there will be a better chance that the mean will cross over the 22C threshold.
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Old 07-20-2020, 06:41 PM
 
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Jakutsk is probably the answer. If anything, it should have extremely cold winters, as that could cause May and September to slip below 10ºC even when July is 22ºC. Maybe somewhere further up the Liena?
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Old 07-20-2020, 10:29 PM
 
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Falun is not even close to a hot-summer subarctic climate.
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Old 07-24-2020, 02:24 PM
 
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The town of Chekunda in Khabarovsk Krai, Eastern Siberia has a subarctic climate, and has a July average high of 27C (80.6F). Its January average low, meanwhile, is -36.4C (-33.5F). Here is the climate data for Chekunda on PogodaiKlimat.ru, which is a reliable source: http://www.pogodaiklimat.ru/climate/31532.htm.

Chekunda is the only subarctic climate that I know of that has an average high for the warmest month of 80F or above. It also has the coldest winters of anywhere that I have found that has an average high for the warmest month of 80F or above.
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Old 01-15-2023, 06:08 PM
 
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Sorry to bring this post back from the dead but I have a question.
Do you guys think with rising temperatures Yakutsk will eventually become a so-called "Hot summer sub-arctic" climate? Or do you think that since both July and May are 2.5 degrees below the current thresholds that May will warm up faster pushing it out of the subarctic climate zone and into an insanely cold winter continental climate? Also in order for it to make it to this new classification how much of its winter cold do you think it would lose since winters would obviously warm by more than the 2.5 degrees in summer?
I just found this comment and will likewise bring this thread back up to give my 2 cents with the 1991-2020 normals that were not out when it was last commented on. Currently Yakutsk is 2.1C away from being a hot summer subarctic climate and 2C away from being a continental climate, so the warming between May and July has remained very consistent: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yakutsk#Climate

Would be fascinated if this can turn into a hot summer subarctic climate.
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Old 01-15-2023, 06:39 PM
 
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It's pretty impressive how extreme Yakutsk's climate is. The other towns in Sakha Republic seem to have cooler summers, even the towns south of Yakutsk. The temperature changes more from October to November (almost 20C decrease) than it does in a whole year in half the world

Another city with a very extreme climate is Turpan. Although the month to month temperature increases aren't as large, the annual mean temperature is also 23C warmer (15C vs -8C). That's the same annual mean as Owensboro, KY, except with summers hotter than those of Miami, Brownsville or Tucson, and winters colder than those of Helena, MT or Sydney, Nova Scotia.
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Old 01-15-2023, 06:45 PM
 
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It's pretty impressive how extreme Yakutsk's climate is. The other towns in Sakha Republic seem to have cooler summers, even the towns south of Yakutsk. The temperature changes more from October to November (almost 20C decrease) than it does in a whole year in half the world
Yep, the summers in particular are much warmer than expected, and not just considering how much cooler towns even to the south are. As a matter of fact they are almost as warm as summers where I am and probably as warm as or warmer for the average high!

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Another city with a very extreme climate is Turpan. Although the month to month temperature increases aren't as large, the annual mean temperature is also 23C warmer (15C vs -8C). That's the same annual mean as Owensboro, KY, except with summers hotter than those of Miami, Brownsville or Tucson, and winters colder than those of Helena, MT or Sydney, Nova Scotia.
Turpan is pretty extreme but for precise statistics I would not use the weather box. Averages, highs, and lows do not line up, some of them are wrong.

Wonder what its accurate averages are?
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