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Old 05-03-2017, 06:32 PM
B87
 
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How common is temps above 20C in October over in Ipswich? I assume more common than I'd think given its quite moderate average?

Also how on earth can Ipswich get 30C in October even once? That's the wildest thing ever. The October record for Malmö is 22.8C ya know
London usually sees 3-4 days above 20c in October. Ipswich would be similar, maybe 2-3.

 
Old 05-03-2017, 06:42 PM
 
Location: Ipswich,England
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How common is temps above 20C in October over in Ipswich? I assume more common than I'd think given its quite moderate average?

Also how on earth can Ipswich get 30C in October even once? That's the wildest thing ever. The October record for Malmö is 22.8C ya know

Gladhammar 24.0 (near Västervik)
Kristianstad 23.5
Kalmar 23.5
Målilla 23.2
Osby 23.2
Malmö 22.8
Gävle 22.7
Harstena 22.6
Borås 22.5
Helsingborg 22.5

That's our top 10 for stations in SMHI's "monthly 100 selected stations". Lund and Stockholm; the hottest during summer; aren't even in the top 10 here It strikes me though that east coast locations have good chances of getting record temps in October: The top four locations are all on the eastern side.

Interesting readings for Sweden . Let me find out a bit more info . Wiki has the max for Oct at 29c for my station .

October 4 years ago for a run of 3 days reached 31c i believe it was - i can find out .

The last week of October in 2006 ? reached 23/24 for a couple or three days which i think is the more impressive of the two .

Normally October isn't what you'd even warm . I have a reading of 14.9 Oct av max from wiki ,so i'm assuming its somehere maybe around 17 at the start of the month max - so 31c was a ridiculous 14 above the norm for that date Usually has a muggy damp feel by then.
November, i class as a typical winter month 10 or 11c max and 75 hours of sunshine


I am looking at Sweden's all time records and note a 38c at more than one place -
Målilla, Småland
Ultuna, Uppland

38c is as high or higher than a lot of countries much further south - hottest in my town is 35c for example

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Old 05-03-2017, 06:46 PM
 
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The grapefruit tree in Chelsea was grown from seed and is over 50 years old. Apparently it is partly sheltered by a large olive tree. The garden is also next to the river, I doubt it even gets frost most years.
Those kind of fruits actually need more warmth and winter sun than 0 freezes.

In the south of Madrid some people grow lemons in private gardens (never seen them but heard on Spanish gardening forums) as well as the citrus x aurantium, which is the bitter orange and is hardier than the sweet orange. There are also figs and olives in Madrid.



There are also public planted loquats which give fruits every year. An example:



Madrid of course gets freezes, not very hard ones but it's not rare at least one low under -3°C, with some/many under 0°C, also depends on the year. Madrid city gets 15.7 days with lows under 0°C per year in average, the outskirts have more, although the south of Madrid is a bit warmer (you start to see many public planted Washingtonia palm trees in the southern cities under Madrid, as date palms) meanwhile the north is colder for the higher altitude.



 
Old 05-03-2017, 06:47 PM
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I forgot about loquats, we have a lot of them in suburban gardens here too. There are a couple of large loquat trees not far from me.
 
Old 05-03-2017, 06:50 PM
 
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:it was 2011 as it goes - not sure how i made it 4 years ago lol .

that week reports 29.9 at Gravesend and no higher . so 31 was in my imagination maybe 31 was forecast i can't remember .

But let me say , the 29.9 or whatever it was didn't feel quite as hot as 29 would in the early summer months - which does give some credence to the argument sun angles ,or as i say 'inherited heat'


i am now on a mission to find this late October run now
 
Old 05-03-2017, 06:51 PM
 
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autumn...gdom_heat_wave

the notable thing about this heat at this time of year was the length of time it went on for


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...hine-come.html

says 30c in Yorkshire in one report - Sheffield seems the unlikeliest of places to reach the mark

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Old 05-03-2017, 07:01 PM
 
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London usually sees 3-4 days above 20c in October. Ipswich would be similar, maybe 2-3.
yeah - 2 sounds about right . They're always the 2 last warm days of the year as well

London Heathrow 0.5 max higher Oct values than Ipswich . Must be the planes bringing in remnants of heat from Dubai
 
Old 05-03-2017, 07:07 PM
 
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Those kind of fruits actually need more warmth and winter sun than 0 freezes.

In the south of Madrid some people grow lemons in private gardens (never seen them but heard on Spanish gardening forums) as well as the citrus x aurantium, which is the bitter orange and is hardier than the sweet orange. There are also figs and olives in Madrid.



There are also public planted loquats which give fruits every year. An example:



Madrid of course gets freezes, not very hard ones but it's not rare at least one low under -3°C, with some/many under 0°C, also depends on the year. Madrid city gets 15.7 days with lows under 0°C per year in average, the outskirts have more, although the south of Madrid is a bit warmer (you start to see many public planted Washingtonia palm trees in the southern cities under Madrid, as date palms) meanwhile the north is colder for the higher altitude.


Madrid would also be tricky but you'd think much more able to support an orange tree - the winter low isn't too far off London's low but critically i'd guess that the coldest point would be of a shorter duration -
 
Old 05-03-2017, 07:28 PM
 
Location: Ipswich,England
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Even we've reached 28.2 in October, and recently we've got into the 20's on Halloween! Funny, just a day later and it would have smashed the November record.
Razza - where are you located ?
 
Old 05-03-2017, 07:34 PM
 
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Razza - where are you located ?
North east Wales, close to the border between Wrexham and Chester, so the best data I have is from Hawarden. Quite significant summer highs for a station in North Wales.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chester#Climate
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