Climate talk: Europe (snowing, record, Chicago, days)

[chicagogeorge]

Originally Posted by irlinit

Because London City airport is surrounded by skyscrapers and tall buildings. Especially in winter with a low sun angle.

I think it's also pretty close to the Thames Estuary so may be subject to low cloud/fog in the cooler months.

Originally Posted by TorshavnSunHolidays

that 1410 is as ridiculous .


i think they should examine their machines - none of them make sense .

can you imagine tax returns coming back like that ?

I'm sure it's accurate but the explanation that irlinit gives is very plausible as to why it's lower.

[TorshavnSunHolidays]

Originally Posted by irlinit

I don't really care about what the average reading should be - I'm just saying that of course a weather station located in a big city is going to record lower sunshine due to obstructions. Hampstead, Greenwich and London City are all located in places with obstructions.

Anyway - this is a really pointless argument over 50 hours or so, I don't think it really matters at all and it's hardly noticeable.

In a big city as well - i forgot about that - more power to my argument , that will bring the average down even more .... OK , revised we will say 1530 ?


Heathrow can stay around 1560 ,that is on the outskirts

[TorshavnSunHolidays]

Originally Posted by chicagogeorge

I'm sure it's accurate but the explanation that irlinit gives is very plausible as to why it's lower.

except he hasn't explained why London Heathrow and the others are reading as high as 1600 in an inland location (oh, and a big city too )

[Razza94]

Originally Posted by TorshavnSunHolidays

I don't think the folk there care about the climate theyre just a hardy old bunch of ex viking stock - seems an interesting place but it wouldn't do me - i like to lay out in the sun from time to time -i think it's a non starter up there

They probably dismiss me as an Orkney plant anyway. "Damn those weasels and their 16C highs!"

[irlinit]

Originally Posted by TorshavnSunHolidays

except he hasn't explained why London Heathrow and the others are reading as high as 1600 in an inland location (oh, and a big city too )

Huh? Why would it be lower than the verified readings which show 1630??

[chicagogeorge]

Originally Posted by TorshavnSunHolidays

except he hasn't explained why London Heathrow and the others are reading as high as 1600 in an inland location (oh, and a big city too )

I looked on google maps London City does look to be congested with buildings that could obstruct sunshine and with the river that close might also be affected by mist/fog?? Heathrow looks that it has much more open space

[Warszawa]

Very nasty weather in Moscow recently. 2C right now and snowing. But should be much nicer going forward

[TorshavnSunHolidays]

Originally Posted by irlinit

Huh? Why would it be lower than the verified readings which show 1630??

There is no reason - it's an obvous sunshine trap - maybe the clouds that hover near the airport move out the way to allow the planes greater visibility .

I'm only saying in any city you should have a fair representation - and 1550 is fair for that city , The same as Brussels , and less than coastal Amsterdam .

Paris is around 1600 as well , that seems plausible as it is slightly further away from that North west cloudbelt, as i call it .

Rennes seems slightly out of kilter as well - i would whack that down to 1600 - so it's not just London

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God, some people on this forum don't half talk out of their arse.

[irlinit]

Ok well you have your own opinion, I'll stick to verified climate data

I'm not sure why you are making up random numbers when it has been noted that buildings obstructing the sensor is the most likely cause for lower readings