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Old 06-17-2016, 05:55 AM
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Location: Surrey/London
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The storm that hit north Surrey/Berkshire last night had rotation and developed several funnel clouds, though none touched down.

 
Old 06-17-2016, 06:22 AM
 
Location: Finland
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In Northern Europe high 60s and 70s are typical of the summer. I guess you get used to it but I never forgot how could the mornings were, many times you would wake up to see frost on the grass and going to get water from the well in the morning was quite sobering because of how chilly it was
Not happening here. While a frost in June is possible (we had one in 2009), it happens maybe once in 20-30 years. The average JJA temp at 6 am is 15.3C (60F) in Turku. In Kevo in Northern Lapland it's 10.4C (51F).

Tula isn't really comparable with Southern Finland or the British Isles either.
 
Old 06-17-2016, 07:02 AM
 
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Next week has a chart with a lifted index of -11 and a CAPE of 3000j/kg. How severe would those storms be? Maybe golfball hail with a chance of tornadoes?
3000//kg of cape is would produce a strong to severe storms and also hail. Maybe tornadoes too.

Current cape forecast for the US. 3000-3500j/kg in the Great Plains, with up to 4000j/kg down by the Gulf Coast.







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Old 06-17-2016, 07:24 AM
 
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Old 06-17-2016, 07:34 AM
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So comparable to a typical Midwest storm? Wonder if we could get dangerous hail with that? I think the largest hailstones recorded in the UK were cricket ball-sized, in September 1958. The storm also spawned 2 tornadoes, one of which hit Gatwick airport.
 
Old 06-17-2016, 08:23 AM
 
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So comparable to a typical Midwest storm? Wonder if we could get dangerous hail with that? I think the largest hailstones recorded in the UK were cricket ball-sized, in September 1958. The storm also spawned 2 tornadoes, one of which hit Gatwick airport.
Yes a CAPE of 3000 joules is common in the Midwest during the spring and summer. Highest CAPE ever recorded actually occurred in the Chicago area back in 1990. Storm produced a CAPE in excess of 8000 joules and an EF5 tornado

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1990_Plainfield_tornado
 
Old 06-17-2016, 08:26 AM
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Maybe we could get an EF2 or EF3 from that then, if it produced a tornado.
 
Old 06-17-2016, 08:36 AM
 
Location: Leeds, UK
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Only problem with the UK is that those high values are usually moderated closer to the time. There was an EF1 tornado in Birmingham in 2005 and that was the strongest in nearly 30 years (so since the 1970s).

The lack of landmass will always hinder the UK's ability to get big tornadoes or really impressive thunderstorms. Not that I want big tornadoes or anything.. lol.

But I would LOVE to experience something like this. Holy crap.

 
Old 06-17-2016, 08:57 AM
 
Location: York
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Thunderstorms in the UK are generally abysmal. Even so, I still enjoy it when we get them.
I remember getting a few big ones in Germany. Very impressive indeed.
If only we were joined in to Europe. We would probably see some decent ones every summer then.
 
Old 06-17-2016, 09:07 AM
 
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Finland records on average 14 tornadoes per year. Most are F0 and F1. An F2 is recorded every two years. There are 6 cases of F3's, and only one F4 ever recorded, so they are very rare.
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