Climate talk: Europe (record, temperature, Chicago, day)

[Ariete]

17C in Derry. Muggy. Woop woop!

Now if you'll excuse me I go watch Kreating Bomb Skares With the Kardashians.

[chicagogeorge]

Originally Posted by B87

Start of summer?

Where are you getting this map from, and which model is that? Can't be the GFS 18z.




GEFS is a little better but I don't see anything above 25C for England




Canadian is worse for you but BAKES eastern Ukraine and Russia. Most likely overdone.





JMA not good either





EC just kills the UK and Scandinavia. Damn look at Russia though

[chicagogeorge]

^^

That's just one day though. Let's see the overall pattern

6-10 day averages don't look too bad





11-15 also shows a little above average

[Botev1912]

Originally Posted by B87

Summer 1993 average highs and sun. Sun hours were only slightly below average, but the temps were crap.

June: 21.8c, 224.2 hrs sun
July: 21.6c, 174.9 hrs sun
August: 21.6c, 219.4 hrs sun

Just had a look through Heathrow's data, and there are only 2 occasions in the record where a poor June and July gave way to an average August, 1998 and 2012.

Funny how 1993 was also crap here.

June: 20.3C
July: 20.4C
August: 23.8C
September: 23.1C

But I have noticed something here. If June is bad, September is nice. If July is bad, August is nice. There are usually at least 3 nice summer months.

[Yamato2]

I really like the climate of Mannheim, Germany. Basically a less rainier version of Seattle.

[B87]

Originally Posted by chicagogeorge

^^

That's just one day though. Let's see the overall pattern

6-10 day averages don't look too bad

Can't see that happening, we would have to average a week of 27c highs for that to be correct.

[chicagogeorge]

Originally Posted by B87

Can't see that happening, we would have to average a week of 27c highs for that to be correct.

Not really. Those are mean temperature departures. You could have milder minimums and near normal max temps.

https://twitter.com/WxCoEuroEnergy/s...70015870468096

[chicagogeorge]

I'd like to hear his analysis of this

https://twitter.com/MarkVogan/status/752804210576678914

[chicagogeorge]

https://twitter.com/meteofrance/stat...91560882884608

[B87]

Originally Posted by chicagogeorge

Not really. Those are mean temperature departures. You could have milder minimums and near normal max temps

Well that chart would give mean temps of 22c, so even with lows of 16-17c we would still be looking at highs of 27-28c. If we had normal highs we would be having lows of 20c, doesn't seem likely.