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Old 04-26-2014, 08:45 PM
 
Location: Near the Coast SWCT
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You are two months behind. It has now been 17 years and 8 months with no warming.
Yes, your right. Don't you love those who deny that we haven't warmed globally in almost 2 decades? Meanwhile they will cherry pick and show the warm data. Fun. Behind the curve.
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Old 04-26-2014, 09:23 PM
 
Location: where you sip the tea of the breasts of the spinsters of Utica
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Hmmmm, speaking of graphs:


Global temperature anomaly
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Old 04-26-2014, 09:56 PM
 
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All I know is that when I worked in Peru for 3 months in 1977 there were huge, thick glaciers in the high Andes, and when I went back in 2003, most of them were completely melted. It's a demonstrable fact that farmers in the coastal deserts of Peru - some of the driest deserts in the world - who relied on the seasonal spring ice melt and subsequent ice replenishment to irrigate crops now have virtually no water because the glaciers are gone. These are settlements that have existed for centuries if not longer.

Melting glaciers threaten Peru | Homeland Security News Wire

You can find a chart anywhere that uses data to make whatever point it wishes to depending on what's measured, when, and where, but melted ice and rising sea levels that force South Pacific islanders to vacate their islands do not lie. Neither do shifting currents that are causing parts of Europe to cool because warm water is being pushed further south from Arctic ice melting (which, btw is why "climate change" IS the correct term, not "warming").
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Old 04-26-2014, 10:04 PM
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Location: Western Massachusetts
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I am most definitely not cherry picking. I am merely making the longest plot into the past that does not give a positive number. That's not cherry picking; it's creating a statistic. 17 years and 8 months is too short a time to draw conclusions, in my opinion.
You're picking the time length to give the number you want [creating a test statistic based on its result]. That's cherrypicking by definition. If 17 years and 8 months is too short to draw a conclusion, then why make a statement on whether there has been global warming based on that time period?
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Old 04-26-2014, 11:23 PM
 
Location: East Bay, San Francisco Bay Area
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Send some rain to California!
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Old 04-26-2014, 11:38 PM
 
Location: Vernon, British Columbia
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You're picking the time length to give the number you want [creating a test statistic based on its result]. That's cherrypicking by definition. If 17 years and 8 months is too short to draw a conclusion, then why make a statement on whether there has been global warming based on that time period?
I wasn't not cherry picking because I wasn't drawing any conclusions. It's like saying we have had sunshine for 3 days in a row now. That's not cherry picking either. It's just stating a fact.
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Old 05-06-2014, 09:17 AM
 
Location: Vernon, British Columbia
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From the NWS...Re: The Wet Coast

CLIMATE...WITH THE RECORD SETTING RAINS IN THE FIRST PART OF MAY
SEATTLE HAS ALREADY SET THE RECORD FOR THE WETTEST FEBRUARY THROUGH
MAY ON RECORD
. SINCE FEBRUARY 1ST 21.87 INCHES OF RAIN HAS FELL AT
THE AIRPORT SMASHING THE OLD RECORD OF 19.67 INCHES SET BACK IN
1972. EVEN WITH THE BELOW NORMAL RAINFALL IN JANUARY SEATTLE HAS A
SHOT AT BREAKING THE WETTEST JANUARY THROUGH MAY PRECIPITATION
RECORD WHICH IS 26.85 INCHES SET IN 1972. THE CURRENT YEARLY
PRECIPITATION TOTAL AT THE AIRPORT IS 25.57 INCHES.
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Old 05-06-2014, 10:12 AM
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How does the snowpack compare to the usual?
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Old 05-06-2014, 12:42 PM
 
Location: Top of the South, NZ
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About the same rainfall as here the last 6 weeks, although it should be one of the drier periods here.
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Old 05-06-2014, 01:35 PM
 
Location: Vernon, British Columbia
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How does the snowpack compare to the usual?
I don't know yet, but I live just north of Washington State, so here is our May 1st snowpack history up to May 1st, 2014.



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