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Old 05-13-2014, 01:43 PM
 
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Also remember that the snow depths from Stockholm are for the centre - it seemed snowier in the suburbs in 2010.

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Old 05-13-2014, 02:05 PM
 
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Helsinki average temperatures (C)
November 1.6
December -2
January -3.9
February -4.7
March -1.3

Gävle average temperatures (C)
November 0.2
December -3.8
January -5.1
February -5.4
March -1.5

So yes, Gävle is slightly cooler actually
but you have to take into consideration that those gävle figures are from the colder 1961-1990 normal period, while finland has updated their normals to the warmer 1981-2010 figures. actually, in light of this, i'd even go as far as saying that helsinki is more similar to falun than gävle climate wise. from my old factbook on climate, the 1961-1990 helsinki average was -6C in january for example.
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Old 05-13-2014, 02:08 PM
 
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plus that you have to take into consideration that those gävle figures are from the colder 1961-1990 normal period, while finland has updated their normals to the warmer 1981-2010 figures. actually, in light of this, i'd even go as far as saying that helsinki is more similar to falun than gävle climate wise. from my old factbook on climate, the 1961-1990 helsinki average was -6C in january for example.
But when you go further north, Sweden is much colder than Finlands north
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Old 05-13-2014, 02:10 PM
 
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I would say they have similar weather, seeming as their at the same latitude
And the trend recently hasn't really changed much, so we will enjoy (or suffer) snowy cold winters at least for a while more.

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but you have to take into consideration that those gävle figures are from the colder 1961-1990 normal period, while finland has updated their normals to the warmer 1981-2010 figures. actually, in light of this, i'd even go as far as saying that helsinki is more similar to falun than gävle climate wise. from my old factbook on climate, the 1961-1990 helsinki average was -6C in january for example.
I doubt it. Both still have the 80's, and the 90's had normal winters. Many winters in the 00's have been colder than average. I really don't think the winters in inland Sweden at 60N have warmed any more than in southern Finland.

For example in Jyväskylä the difference beetween the 61-90 and 71-00 Dec-Feb mean temps was only 0.2C. The climate doesn't warm THAT fast.

Still 6 winters to go this normal period, but this is how it looks to the end of April 2014:

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Old 05-13-2014, 02:12 PM
 
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But when you go further north, Sweden is much colder than Finlands north
no it isn't

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Old 05-13-2014, 02:18 PM
 
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no it isn't
The darker blue parts are mainly in Sweden and the mountainous region of Norway.

Sodankyla is one of Finlands coldest places and if you compare its temperatures to Kiruna or Karesuando, Sweden is much colder.
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Old 05-13-2014, 02:25 PM
 
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well, if you bother to search a little, there's a thread here were i calculated the 1981-2010 annual mean for karesuando, which was -1.5C or something. mounio, a cold spot in finland, had an almost identical annual mean as karesuando for that period. kilipisjärvi (finland) averaged -1.9C during the 1981-2010 period, -0.4C lower than karesuando did during the same period. so - if you exclude the high mountainous terrain - the differences are practically zero.
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Old 05-13-2014, 02:32 PM
 
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well, if you bother to search a little, there's a thread here were i calculated the 1981-2010 annual mean for karesuando, which was -1.5C or something. mounio, a cold spot in finland, had an almost identical annual mean as karesuando for that period. kilipisjärvi (finland) averaged -1.9C during the 1981-2010 period, -0.4C lower than karesuando did during the same period. so - if you exclude the high mountainous terrain - the differences are practically zero.
What about Nikkaluokta and Naimakka? And by the way I'm just talking about winters, not the year overall
And can you link me to your thread about Karesuando
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Old 05-13-2014, 02:36 PM
 
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i'm not gonna spone-feed the information. use the search function. and this applies as well to winter as to summer. but if you wan't to belive i'm wrong - do so .
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Old 05-13-2014, 02:40 PM
 
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i'm not gonna spone-feed the information. use the search function. and this applies as well to winter as to summer. but if you wan't to belive i'm wrong - do so .
Im not saying your wrong, I am saying that most places in the northern part of Sweden are colder than Finlands northern parts.
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