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There are loads of speed cameras here, but we have the lowest road fatalities per 100,000 people in Europe, and fourth lowest in the world - so maybe they work?
Gosh, that's horrible. Sounds worse than living in the old Soviet Union.
We have a few traffic light cameras here, but they're clearly marked, and the yellow light has to be a certain length (which cut "violations" by 90% when they implemented that rule, btw). Cops are usually pretty lenient even when they enforce - I've blown past speed traps doing 20 over...lol.
Yeah, I could never live in a place with that much surveillance, although I'm sure it's coming here sooner or later. Just one of the many reasons why I wish to move to the remote wilds of upper Michigan.
I have a feeling you'd like it here where I live - the KFC is within walking distance, we have the kind of climate you seem to enjoy and we have cheap booze (you'd die if you saw our Tower store - it's the Wal-mart of booze. )
It all started with the socialist Labor Government in the early 2000's. Before then, fixed speed cameras just about didn't exist and the tolerance was 10% before you got fined. I remember seeing a news report on how much traffic fine revenue each state generates, I recall Victoria being something like 2.5x as much as the next highest figure (NSW from memory).
Moving out to the country is the answer, get away from the city and all the **** it entails.
In the Northern Territory by comparison, there are NO speed cameras, and the speed limit is 130kmh on 2 lane roads, and these roads have trucks which pull 4 bloody trailers. While here in nazi ass Melbourne, we get fined for doing 3 km over the 100kmh limit on a 4 lane freeway. Figure that one out.
That Tower store you speak of sounds like Dan Murphys here, big bottle shop nearly the size of a supermarket. I like the idea of cheap booze, but over in the states I'd only be getting half my current wage for the job I do. Beer and spirits are roughly twice as expensive as in the states, but wine is cheap, a 4 litre goon sack can be bought for only $9. A 2 litre jug of cheap port or sherry comes in at about $11, not bad for 18% plonk. Nice cost effective way to get high. Although I don't drink it, it's yuck and the hangover the next morning is something else.
I'm not having luck finding a job in my field here (or elsewhere), **** it, I might just bite the bullet, get my truck license, get a year or two experience and then **** off to Queensland and then laugh at Melbourne's **** weather and the latest speed camera erections. Drivers get paid pretty well in Oz.
We have a lot of speed cameras here, but they are mostly only for display and to frighten people. Maybe one in 10 poles has a camera, and the road administration change its position once in a while. They have an effect still, in the "camera areas" really reckless speedings (like 30km/h over) have dropped dramatically.
The cameras usually register only over 10km/h speedings, and sometimes the cops ignore under 15km/h speedings if there's no traffic and the weather conditions are good.
I've heard that the Netherlands are very strict on speeding. I read somewhere that they not only have speed cameras, Red light cameras, police radars, but also point to point cameras on their entire highway network.
IN Victoria, it's only Melbourne that this **** happens, out in the country, there are hardly any cameras except for 1 or 2 in major towns and the blanket speed limit is 100km/h regardless of road quality. Up in the northwest of the state around Mildura, the speed limit becomes 110km/h on 2 lane roads, and there is only 1 fixed speed camera in the town.
These pics are from a town just outside of Melbourne
lol
In the Northern Territory...
This is not an autobahn, freeway, or anything of the sort, but a 2 lane 2 way road which has no shoulders and is a major route for road trains (trucks with up to 4 trailers and weighing up to 120 tonnes) and then there is the wild life to worry about. NT kicks ass. Too Bad Darwin is expensive as **** and Alice Springs is full of wine guzzling abos on welfare.
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I've heard that the Netherlands are very strict on speeding. I read somewhere that they not only have speed cameras, Red light cameras, police radars, but also point to point cameras on their entire highway network.
IN Victoria, it's only Melbourne that this **** happens, out in the country, there are hardly any cameras except for 1 or 2 in major towns and the blanket speed limit is 100km/h regardless of road quality. Up in the northwest of the state around Mildura, the speed limit becomes 110km/h on 2 lane roads, and there is only 1 fixed speed camera in the town.
These pics are from a town just outside of Melbourne
lol
In the Northern Territory...
This is not an autobahn, freeway, or anything of the sort, but a 2 lane 2 way road which has no shoulders and is a major route for road trains (trucks with up to 4 trailers and weighing up to 150 tonnes) and then there is the wild life to worry about. NT kicks ass. Too Bad Darwin is expensive as **** and Alice Springs is full of wine guzzling abos on welfare.
Those first two are a joke! How they they have it set so high on a gravel winding road? If that was here it would be 60 max.
Those first two are a joke! How they they have it set so high on a gravel winding road? If that was here it would be 60 max.
Not a joke mate, it's actual fact. Those pics are real. Even in this nazi state. I remember going fishing down to Western Port Bay, the divided highway with 2 lanes each way plus wide shoulders has a speed limit of 100km/h, the turn off was a narrow 1 lane rutted piece of asphalt, barely wider than a footpath and the edges were crumbled away with trees and reeds on each side... the speed limit... 100km/h. lol
Actually, outside of Melbourne, Victoria is a free for all, speed limits are 100 or 110km/h regardless of road quality, be it the Hume Highway from Sydney to Melbourne or a remote goat track, and there are no revenue cameras. And cops are a rare sight. The country here really is freedom. I need to move out of Melbourne right now
Outside of the freeways, Australia tends to have high speed limits. Residential streets are 50-70km/h, major urban arterial roads with traffic lights are 80km/h. In rural areas the speed limit is 100-110km/h, regardless of road quality. I remember going to Hungary a couple years ago, the roads through towns were limited to 30km/h... WTF!!!! Their freeways though are first class and are 130km/h limit, but outside of that, it's crap with very low speed limits.
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Those speed limit signs look quite out of place. Gotta love the NT one. Small roads such as the first two are limited to 90 km/h over here unless signed otherwise. In forests, it ofter drops to 60, 50 or even 40 km/h because of animals (single lane roads only).
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Pools are always bad, should be drained. I've seen one (1) mosquito this season I think. This area is very dry and pavementish, so mosquitos aren't a problem at all, which is quite spectacular for Finland. Due to the greenery wasps and bees are more of a nuisance.
Not maybe NIMBY-stories per se, but the 60's and 70's are still very traumatic in Turku, so a lot of the old wooden houses are left to rot until they fall apart or burns down. They are all semi-protected, and some wants to renovate them, other demolish them. In any case, they prevent all development of that block.
And some houses have been empty for 20-30 years, and nothing has been done, so often they eventually have to be demolished.
I really like them (especially compared to the bland 70s blocks around), but well since Turku is a sizeable city, with public transportation and employment opportunities most likely allowing for much higher densities, I don't see why the most damaged couldn't go. Seems like there is no shortage of them yet.
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If you don't mind me asking, did you move out of your parent's home?
Nope, I was in an apartment on my own. I moved out at 17 when going tu uni in another city for one year. My parents moved to a house last summer/autumn so I helped then. Enough cardboard moving for now.
The Northern Territory seems like the type of place drug addicts move to, zooming around while high on crack in their pickup wagons, sleeping with their sisters and shooting wild animals for fun because there is nothing else to do, and mostly a desert with the occasional dead shrub.
Looks like hell - can't stand rural living.
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Sounds worse than living in the old Soviet Union. 
Just one of the many reasons why I wish to move to the remote wilds of upper Michigan. 
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