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Old 03-18-2015, 07:17 AM
 
Location: Munich, Germany
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About the different measurements of sunhours.
I think this is a decent example.
Detroit - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Windsor, Ontario - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
It's only a 30km/19mi distance between these two airports.

The Windsor Weather Station uses the 1981-2010 period for sunhours.
The Usa stopped with the sunhour measurements as we know. So these Sun hour measurements are from 1961-1990.
I think If America would still measure sunhours, Detroit would probably have over 2500 sunhours for the 1981-2010 period.(By the American sunhour measurement method)

But i don't think that there would be such a big difference between these two airport, tbh i think these two get about the same amount of sunhours year round.


Here's another one.
Sault Ste. Marie
The Canadian side http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sault_S...ntario#Climate
The American side http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sault_S...chigan#Climate
6miles/10km distance between the two airports were measurements are taken.
But a difference of over 300 sunhours.
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Old 03-18-2015, 12:40 PM
 
Location: Wellington and North of South
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That's not true. The Sahara and the southwestern US are WAY sunnier than the Atacama.

A Chilean university paper I have already mentioned cites Calama as getting 3900+ hours.
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Even if Yuma isn't the sunniest, it's hard for a place to be significantly sunnier. Anything much sunnier would be over 100%
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Old 03-18-2015, 01:11 PM
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Hmm. Forecast to be mostly cloudy today in Yuma with a slight chance of showers tomorrow:

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Old 03-18-2015, 11:18 PM
 
Location: My favorite state Arizona
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Hmm. Forecast to be mostly cloudy today in Yuma with a slight chance of showers tomorrow:

National Weather Service
Yeah, but only for one day before it's sunny again. It's sunny 90% of the time there.
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Old 06-18-2015, 01:17 PM
 
Location: My favorite state Arizona
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You can't prove that - you're just an enthusiast.
Too bad they're not going to change it.
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Old 07-28-2015, 06:31 AM
 
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The annual mean cloud cover, expressed in tenths of the covered sky, is for example :

3.26 tenths in Las Vegas, NV, USA. Source : http://www.climates.com/USA/PDF/NV005USA.pdf
3.13 tenths in Phoenix, AZ, USA. Source : http://www.climates.com/USA/PDF/AZ022USA.pdf
2.00 tenths in Yuma, AZ, USA. Source : http://www.climates.com/USA/PDF/AZ030USA.pdf

In the Sahara Desert :

Egypt :
0.90 tenth in Hurghada. Source : http://www.climates.com/AFRICA/PDF/HURGHADA.pdf
0.88 tenth in Siwa. Source : http://www.climates.com/AFRICA/PDF/EGP07AFR.pdf
0.86 tenth in Luxor. Source : http://www.climates.com/AFRICA/PDF/EGP05AFR.pdf
0.83 tenth in Sharm El Sheikh. Source : http://www.climates.com/AFRICA/PDF/EGP06AFR.pdf
0.58 tenth in Aswan. Source : http://www.climates.com/AFRICA/PDF/ASWAN.pdf

Libya :
0.60 tenth in Kufra. Source : http://www.climates.com/AFRICA/PDF/LBY04AFR.pdf

I calculated all these averages by using the "AREA OF BLUE SKY" data in each link.

The sunshine hours, given in these previous links, were taken from Web popular data, and thus, they aren't reliable. I'm a little dubious about the cloud cover figures for these three US city, I think these averages are somewhat very high, even too high for Las Vegas, Phoenix and Yuma. I think they are rather between around 2 tenths for LV and PHX, and near 1.3 or 1.4 tenth for YMA.

The lowest cloud cover figures for the Sahara Desert may not be these of Aswan. There are even clearer spots, such as the oases of Dakhla and Kharga, also in Upper Egypt, which lie in the heart of the Libyan (Eastern) Desert. Wadi Halfa, a town along the the border of Egypt and Sudan, seems to be slightly clearer than Aswan, too.

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Old 07-28-2015, 07:04 AM
 
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About the different measurements of sunhours.
I think this is a decent example.
Detroit - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Windsor, Ontario - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
It's only a 30km/19mi distance between these two airports.

The Windsor Weather Station uses the 1981-2010 period for sunhours.
The Usa stopped with the sunhour measurements as we know. So these Sun hour measurements are from 1961-1990.
I think If America would still measure sunhours, Detroit would probably have over 2500 sunhours for the 1981-2010 period.(By the American sunhour measurement method)

Odds are that Detroit has not seen a change in sunshine hours from earlier 30 year periods. They may even be more cloudier as it's been wetter these past 30 years


Chicago hasn't. Only thing that has changed is seasonal sunshine. The percent of total sunshine annually is the same

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Old 07-31-2015, 01:13 AM
 
Location: Glendale, Arizona but from norcal
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The monsoon is just as powerful over southeastern California as it is in Yuma, so Yuma actually BEATS southeastern California in sunshine hours.
And southeastern California is no further from the Gulf of California than Yuma whatsoever.
Not true....not true.... just look at a map.... yuma is on the southern border about 80 miles while the coachella valley is around 250 miles. And look at rainfall data. Palm springs averages 0 days of rain on june, .6 on July, .9 august, .7 on sept. While yuma averages .2 on june, .9 on july, 2.3 on august, and 1.2 on september. The monsoon influence is much stronger in yuma than desert california. Only on powerful monsson events California gets affected while arizona sees them more frequently. It is clear the further east you go the more monsoon influence. Just look at phoenix and the monsoon actually gets some influence on day to dday weather in the months of july and august.
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Old 08-03-2015, 09:36 AM
 
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There are actually only three areas in the world which bask in more than 4,000 h of bright sunshine a year (over 11 h a day) according to the "World Sunshine Chart", prepared by the U.S. Department of Commerce's Weather Bureau. The report says the Sahara Desert, the coast of northern Chile as well as parts of deserts in California and in Arizona claim to receive the most sunlight on Earth. I read this on some Google Books :
Desert Forest Golf Club
State Solar Energy Legislation of 1977

There is another similar book that says there are only two areas that average over 4,000 h of bright sunshine yearly, a small zone from Phoenix to Yuma in Arizona plus a few miles into California and a large portion of the Sahara Desert west of the Red Sea :
Solar Thermal Energy Utilization

However, Palm Springs seems to be sunnier than Yuma because the Coachella Valley may not be very affected by summer monsoon clouds unlike Arizona. Sunshine figures must be somewhat close for both locations. I'm still wondering if there is really an area in the Desert Southwest that breaks the 4,000-h mark.

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