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Old 07-10-2014, 07:36 PM
 
Location: Near the Coast SWCT
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Poor man’s polar vortex to make shocking summer return in eastern U.S. next week
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Old 07-10-2014, 08:02 PM
 
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All I know is we had a hurricane last week, today we had a freak storm with flooding and tornados (in VAB), and next week we're going to have highs in the 70s!
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Old 07-10-2014, 08:23 PM
 
Location: Northville, MI
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Here we go. Lol!!! Meteos are getting wild trying to contact these guys with the headlines explaining to them what is a Polar Vortex. A lot of times these articles we read are not written by degree holding meteorologists.

Polar Vortex in July: Record Cold Weather on the Way to U.S.
A low of 63 F is the AVERAGE low for us in July. Forget record lows, people forget how hot the nights have been lately.

And a low in the upper 50's is not unheard of here in summer. Our Record low is 45 F for July.

In fact, that might likely be our low tonight as its already down to 66 F.
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Old 07-10-2014, 08:41 PM
 
Location: Near the Coast SWCT
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A low of 63 F is the AVERAGE low for us in July. Forget record lows, people forget how hot the nights have been lately.

And a low in the upper 50's is not unheard of here in summer. Our Record low is 45 F for July.

In fact, that might likely be our low tonight as its already down to 66 F.
Yeah. Not sure where that forecast was for exactly or if it was a general number. You might get into upper 50s at least next week as the minimum ... But if the core was over us you would flirt with mid-upper 40s for lows. Should moderate by time it moves east

I wish there was a map that showed record temps so we have easy access to see how close a forecast will be to the records.
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Old 07-10-2014, 10:24 PM
 
Location: Near the Coast SWCT
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Nice work NWS Tulsa.


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THE PATTERN ALOFT BECOMES HIGHLY AMPLIFIED
WITH UPPER RIDGING EXTENDING ALONG THE WESTERN STATES AND PUSHING
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/#NOTPOLARVORTEX/ WILL HELP DRIVE AN UNSEASONABLY COOL AIRMASS
THROUGH THE CENTRAL AND EASTERN STATES. AVERAGE DAILY TEMPERATURES
SOME 10 TO 20 DEGREES BELOW NORMAL LOOK LIKELY FOR MUCH OF THE
FORECAST AREA FOR MID TO LATE IN THE WORK WEEK
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Old 07-11-2014, 02:28 AM
 
Location: north central Ohio
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Ahhhh,yes,I would be happy to see the polar vortex hang around the rest of the summer!

I hate summers in Ohio,hot and humid!

Cool! Weather Experts Say Polar Vortex Is Making a Comeback

The cause? It's Typhoon Neoguri, thousands of miles to the west, according to the Weather Underground's Jeff Masters. That storm is sparking a chain reaction of weather shifts, including the Eastern cooldown as well as a strong ridge of high pressure over western North America. That means next week is going to be a hot one in the West.

Cool! Weather Experts Say Polar Vortex Is Making a Comeback - NBC News

I feel sorry for drought-stricken CA!
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Old 07-11-2014, 05:27 AM
 
Location: South Jersey
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A low of 63 F is the AVERAGE low for us in July. Forget record lows, people forget how hot the nights have been lately.

And a low in the upper 50's is not unheard of here in summer. Our Record low is 45 F for July.

In fact, that might likely be our low tonight as its already down to 66 F.
63F as an average low in July seems low for NJ. I could see that for NWNJ (it's right around 60, I believe, for much of the Poconos, after all). But certainly not here, probably not CNJ either. Is your area newly built-up? That's one possible explanation if the UHI is now much greater than it was before the averages were established. And I know that's a huge issue in general in that part of the state.
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Old 07-11-2014, 05:38 AM
 
Location: Ashburn, VA
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Old 07-11-2014, 06:31 AM
 
Location: Northville, MI
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63F as an average low in July seems low for NJ. I could see that for NWNJ (it's right around 60, I believe, for much of the Poconos, after all). But certainly not here, probably not CNJ either. Is your area newly built-up? That's one possible explanation if the UHI is now much greater than it was before the averages were established. And I know that's a huge issue in general in that part of the state.
Which is why my location is called CNJ frost hollow.
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Old 07-11-2014, 12:21 PM
 
Location: Near the Coast SWCT
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So I went to check....

I looked at the record coldest 850mb temps back to 1948 only over Greenbay.

Apparently it happened in July 1959, 1967, 1968, 1969, 1970, 1972, 1975, 1983, 2001, & 2013.
And those are just the coldest numbers... there's been many more instances.

This isn't rare...this isn't unusual...this isnt alarming.... this isn't because of CO2!

And the latest GFS12z says it's not even in Top 10. (we'll see soon)

Bottom line... take a look at those other Julys where the Trough/ULL/Bleed down of the pole happened in July.




That's all it takes guys...just a little research.. Don't listen to the media as if their Gods.


Need a visual????

Here... July 12, 1975.. Look familiar?

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