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Old 12-02-2020, 12:58 AM
 
Location: Land of the Free
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Yeah, those palms look awesome. Windmills, IMO, are underrated. My issue is they are fairly slow growers compared to many palms but that of course would depend on certain factors.
Not a fan of windmills, see quite a few of them now in Seattle and London, they've become the high latitude palm for places where palms shouldn't grow. They look like the sad relatives of fan palms, especially because you don't see many windmills in places that can reliably grow tall fan palms.
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Old 12-03-2020, 10:01 PM
 
Location: Bom Jardim da Serra, Santa Catarina
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Since I currently live in the Southern Hemisphere, I’ll predict from the last place I’ve been in the Northern Hemisphere.

Moscow, Russia
Lowest daytime high: -12C
Lowest nighttime low: -25C
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Old 12-04-2020, 01:13 AM
 
Location: Nirvana
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Not a fan of windmills, see quite a few of them now in Seattle and London, they've become the high latitude palm for places where palms shouldn't grow. They look like the sad relatives of fan palms, especially because you don't see many windmills in places that can reliably grow tall fan palms.
I like windmills when they are tall (at least about 15 feet tall) and healthy (deep, bright green) with drooping fronds. When they are shorter with flat fronds that stick out - I'm honestly not big into that look but that's how they start out. We got some in a city park near a state university here BUT hey are mature trees and look great imo. What I really don't like about windmills, though, is that are they ARE slow growers, I read they only grow one foot a year.

I do strongly agree with you that windmills are all the rave in colder climates and yeah, places that can grow something like washies or queen palms, which are faster growers from my understanding, are not big on windmills. Unfortunately, windmills is the only option for palm trees (not counting sabal minor or needle palm) for a lot of people in the Eastern US who are in hardiness zone 7 (sabals are next for people living hardiness zone 8 and 9 - zone 9 supports Cali fan palms and very marginal in zone 8). I honestly hate the fact in NC we are very limited on the palms we can grow.
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Old 12-04-2020, 09:11 AM
 
Location: East of Seattle since 1992, 615' Elevation, Zone 8b - originally from SF Bay Area
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We are 23 miles east of Seattle at 600' elevation. I'll go with:


Lowest Daytime High: 30F/-1C
Lowest Nighttime Low: 17F/-8C
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Old 12-04-2020, 02:51 PM
 
Location: Sandy Eggo's North County
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Coldest max: 60F
Warmest min: 58F

Today the air temp is 72F. The water temp is 58-61F, depending on how far out you take the temp. (It's always 2-3 degrees warmer in the "outside" waters.) That's about 5-6 miles out...
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Old 12-04-2020, 10:27 PM
 
Location: MD
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25/12f
-4/-11c


Edit: Lol I just noticed that mets guy has the same prediction. I only noticed this after the fact.
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Old 12-05-2020, 12:21 AM
 
Location: Top of the South, NZ
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I like windmills when they are tall (at least about 15 feet tall) and healthy (deep, bright green) with drooping fronds. When they are shorter with flat fronds that stick out - I'm honestly not big into that look but that's how they start out. We got some in a city park near a state university here BUT hey are mature trees and look great imo. What I really don't like about windmills, though, is that are they ARE slow growers, I read they only grow one foot a year.

I do strongly agree with you that windmills are all the rave in colder climates and yeah, places that can grow something like washies or queen palms, which are faster growers from my understanding, are not big on windmills. Unfortunately, windmills is the only option for palm trees (not counting sabal minor or needle palm) for a lot of people in the Eastern US who are in hardiness zone 7 (sabals are next for people living hardiness zone 8 and 9 - zone 9 supports Cali fan palms and very marginal in zone 8). I honestly hate the fact in NC we are very limited on the palms we can grow.
While I will say they aren't the most attractive palms, I don't think they look that bad either. Certainly agree that juveniles grown under shade are completely different looking, and can rival just about any palm imo - probably got a hundred or more young ones in the deep dark gullies around the house, not sure how they established, by probably by rats

Washingtonias are almost extinct here - people just don't like them. Queen plans are pretty popular for the speed and low maintenance, but Windmills will always be the most common (even if they're constantly getting chopped down about the place), just by virtue of the seed being spread so easily.

Here's some I drive by most days

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My prediction for my coldest maximum this coming winter, will be 9.3C.

Coldest minmum will be -4.1C - both are the averages since 2008.

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Old 12-05-2020, 04:46 PM
 
Location: St. Louis Park, MN
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Coldest high... -2
Coldest low... -20
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Old 12-06-2020, 03:28 AM
 
Location: New Jersey
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Coldest daytime high: 24
Coldest nighttime low: 3
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Old 12-06-2020, 04:57 AM
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Location: Surrey/London
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Coldest high: 3c/37f

Coldest low: -2c/28f
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