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I have to choose Wyndham. As bad as Wyndham is, it is objectively better than Mount Wellington (at 4,170 ft).
Mount Wellington can't support a forest at that elevation. The inability to grow crops is a deal breaker for me.
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I think your assessment of the hottest and coldest places is a bit flawed. Although averages matter, you can't ignore record lows, especially when there is a difference of 25°F... and the time of year for which these places are being picked for.
Technically Mount Wellington has a slightly lower annual mean (difference of 0.2°F) but Charlotte's Pass has a much lower record low (-9.4°F vs 15.6°F!) and a lower winter average than Mount Wellington...
I think Oodnadatta currently holds the highest recorded temperature in Australia but the averages aren't nearly as high as Wyndham so it is understandable why it wouldn't be picked. Oodnadatta - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
also i find it hard to believe Wyndham can maintain an average high of 98.4°F in January and 96.8°F in February during the rainy season with half of each month recording substantial rainfall. it doesn't look right. i guess since its not 8" of a constant drizzle but in the form of quick thunderstorms that come late in the day after peak temperatures have been reached
I think your assessment of the hottest and coldest places is a bit flawed. Although averages matter, you can't ignore record lows, especially when there is a difference of 25°F... and the time of year for which these places are being picked for.
Technically Mount Wellington has a slightly lower annual mean (difference of 0.2°F) but Charlotte's Pass has a much lower record low (-9.4°F vs 15.6°F!) and a lower winter average than Mount Wellington...
I think Oodnadatta currently holds the highest recorded temperature in Australia but the averages aren't nearly as high as Wyndham so it is understandable why it wouldn't be picked. Oodnadatta - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
also i find it hard to believe Wyndham can maintain an average high of 98.4°F in January and 96.8°F in February during the rainy season with half of each month recording substantial rainfall. it doesn't look right. i guess since its not 8" of a constant drizzle but in the form of quick thunderstorms that come late in the day after peak temperatures have been reached
Normally, people would go with the average yearly highs and lows. Records are just, well, records. They can be a fluke. I went for places that were thoroughly hot or cold. Don't see why this is "flawed"...
Oodnadatta is rather chilly in the winter, especially at nights. I find it surprising that you suggested it as the "hottest climate" in AUS. I mean, its winter lows are akin to the winter highs of Denver.
Marble Bar sees mild "winters", which are pretty much springlike and comfortable overall (despite its scorching hot summers). Wyndham was the kind of a climate that was hot all year round, without "relief" (that MB provides). Charlotte Pass was an alright suggestion but, as you know, Mount Wellington had lower average temps all year round.
i shouldn't have used the word "flawed". i guess my point was that you have a place like Mount Wellington which has never seen 14°F/-10°C but Charlotte Pass probably sees 14°F/-10°C every year...
i was just thinking that maybe averages aren't everything and the extremes should play some kind of role in the decision. Say you compare Reykjavik, Iceland to Fargo, North Dakota:
so... Reykjavik is colder? i know its coming to a vague conclusion for two places that are very different. i just don't like to look at a place as colder or warmer just because of the averages...
in fact, i'm curious about what most people think. i'm going to create a thread about it.
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I wasn't really suggesting Oodnadatta, just mentioning its record for giggles...
But as for Marble Bar, it does have a hotter summer average and a higher record high. so it has a few months of simply very warm weather, but when the heat comes, it hits harder than it does in Wyndham (probably because it has a weaker wet season).
Some snippets regarding Marble Bar:
"The town set a world record of most consecutive days of 100 °F (37.8 °C) or above, during a period of 160 days from 31 October 1923 to 7 April 1924."
"During December and January, temperatures in excess of 45 °C (113 °F) are common."
Can't say the same for Wyndham...
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But as for Marble Bar, it does have a hotter summer average and a higher record high. so it has a few months of simply very warm weather, but when the heat comes, it hits harder than it does in Wyndham (probably because it has a weaker wet season).
Some snippets regarding Marble Bar:
"The town set a world record of most consecutive days of 100 °F (37.8 °C) or above, during a period of 160 days from 31 October 1923 to 7 April 1924."
"During December and January, temperatures in excess of 45 °C (113 °F) are common."
Can't say the same for Wyndham...
That's, of course, true.
However, it's just that Wyndham is consistently hot. And not just hot, but very hot - over 35C+ most of the year. Marble Bar, whilst hotter in the summer (40C+), has lukewarm and rather pleasant "winters".
Wyndham lol. Mt Wellington is a polar hole. Wyndham should be the site of the largest and most important city in Australia, but alas the early settlers drank too much ****en rum and steered their ships in the wrong direction.
Not only is it one of the best climates in Australia, but also has some of the best and most unique scenery in Australia.
Mount Wellington. It's not nearly as extreme as Wyndham. The summers in Mount Wellington are comfortable, while Wyndham doesn't get comfortable weather.
Wyndham is a town, while Wellington is a mountain. Wyndham should be compared to Hobart, to which it would lose famously.
Also loses to Wellington, IMO.
The poll wasn't about populated places. And Hobart is relatively warm compared to actual cold places in Australia.
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