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View Poll Results: Which is more livable?
A tropical climate without air conditioning 47 60.26%
An oceanic climate without heating 31 39.74%
Voters: 78. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 11-04-2014, 07:56 PM
 
Location: Lexington, KY
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really because just this weekend Miami experieced lows in the upper 40s and low 50s. now lets see what winter holds for them.

if you are really implying that Miami is warmer than honolulu just because it "needs" AC while Honololu doesnt (also a big misunderstanding) you must really be confused, since Honolulu doesnt drop below 82/65, yet Miami sees 74/59 or 75/60 (conflicting sources but really the same thing) in Jan and sees freezes biannually.
What are these "conflicting sources", personal stations on Wunderground 15 miles inland?

It is 76/60 for 1981-2010 according to NOAA. And Miami Intl has not recorded a freeze this decade why don't you stop pretending to be an expert on Florida's climate.
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Old 11-04-2014, 08:01 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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What are these "conflicting sources", personal stations on Wunderground 15 miles inland?

It is 76/60 for 1981-2010 according to NOAA. And Miami Intl has not recorded a freeze this decade why don't you stop pretending to be an expert on Florida's climate.
i blame myself fr saying freeze equivalent to 30s but when i said freezes (in this thread) mean but i really mean 30s, a couple of degrees wont make you notice a freeze or do you really sense when its a freeze, say its 38 F, will you really know that its not freezing (anything below 40 to me feels freezing)?
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Old 11-04-2014, 08:03 PM
 
Location: Arundel, FL
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Mean extreme annual minimum is 40F (1981-2010) for Miami Intl.
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Old 11-04-2014, 08:04 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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Mean extreme annual minimum is 40F (1981-2010) for Miami Intl.
but to me that would feel as a freeze, when its that cold i really cant differentiate if its 32 or 40.

but that is just me, even most people here wouldn't be able to tell difference between 40 and 32
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Old 11-04-2014, 08:13 PM
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but to me that would feel as a freeze, when its that cold i really cant differentiate if its 32 or 40.

but that is just me, even most people here wouldn't be able to tell difference between 40 and 32
it matters to plants growing, which is why it's such an important threshold. A freeze means water can freeze, it has little to do with what it feels like. But 8°F is rather noticeable.
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Old 11-04-2014, 08:17 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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it matters to plants growing. A freeze means water can freeze, it has little to do with what it feels like. But 8°F is rather noticeable.
not really i went to Big Bear last winter and it was about 35 when we got there and then later 25 didn't feel much different
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Old 11-04-2014, 09:35 PM
 
Location: Bangkok, Thailand
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It really depends. I've spent two weeks in an equatorial climate (30 C highs and 23 C lows with high humidity every day) without AC and I'd say that would be infinitely superior to my own climate without heating (I use the heater here pretty much every day for 9-10 months of the year).
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Old 11-05-2014, 06:33 AM
 
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For myself this is an age related question...When I was in my 20's I lived in San Francisco and never minded the cool, wet winters...Now in my 60's I live in Florida and couldn't imagine not having year around warm weather... But without A/C I'd have to move to Hawai'i ...
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Old 11-05-2014, 04:17 PM
 
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Southern FL is unlivable year round without the AC. You can get away with it for a brief period but it is not fun nor will you be too active or productive. I imagine most who voted for the tropical climate have not lived for an extended period in some tropical urban environment.. Bias towards hot beach type weather is everywhere you turn. Get the weather forecast on your Iphone with SIRI and it gives the most positive feedback for days that get to 90 degrees.. Miami Heat went to the NBA finals the past four years and any time there was a home game late into the playoffs (we are talking late May to mid June...LOL) the announcers on the national networks would rave about the beautiful 89 degree day..
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Old 11-05-2014, 06:58 PM
 
Location: South Jersey
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but to me that would feel as a freeze, when its that cold i really cant differentiate if its 32 or 40.

but that is just me, even most people here wouldn't be able to tell difference between 40 and 32
I can tell the difference.

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Southern FL is unlivable year round without the AC. You can get away with it for a brief period but it is not fun nor will you be too active or productive. I imagine most who voted for the tropical climate have not lived for an extended period in some tropical urban environment.. Bias towards hot beach type weather is everywhere you turn. Get the weather forecast on your Iphone with SIRI and it gives the most positive feedback for days that get to 90 degrees.. Miami Heat went to the NBA finals the past four years and any time there was a home game late into the playoffs (we are talking late May to mid June...LOL) the announcers on the national networks would rave about the beautiful 89 degree day..
+1. Well said. I bet those announcers wouldn't be raving about if it they had to stay in Miami without air conditioning. There's definitely a huge difference between a climate like Miami and one that gets dry heat in the lower 80s with nights in the 60s. The latter is somewhat tolerable without AC to most people (though still not tolerable for me). But to live in Miami without air conditioning? Forget it.
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