Welcome to City-Data.com Forum!
U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Weather
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
Reply Start New Thread
 
Old 11-23-2014, 08:07 AM
 
Location: Finland
24,128 posts, read 24,808,159 times
Reputation: 11103

Advertisements

Quote:
Originally Posted by chicagogeorge View Post
A 37C air temp with a RH of 60% would produce a heat index of 51C. Yeah that would be a little humid
Yeah, as I said, I was reflecting to the average conditions here. Finland has recorded above 37C once (37.2C), and my city has an annual humidity of 80%, so those conditions would be spectacular. When that national high temp was recorded the DP was 10.5C and the 24h relative humidity 51%.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 11-23-2014, 08:35 AM
 
3,212 posts, read 3,175,571 times
Reputation: 1067
Here in Southern California, 95+ temperatures means humidity is usually less than 20 percent, sometimes lower than 5 percent! So yes, I consider 99 F with 32 percent humidity to be on the humid side.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 11-23-2014, 08:44 AM
 
29,523 posts, read 19,620,154 times
Reputation: 4542
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ariete View Post
Yeah, as I said, I was reflecting to the average conditions here. Finland has recorded above 37C once (37.2C), and my city has an annual humidity of 80%, so those conditions would be spectacular. When that national high temp was recorded the DP was 10.5C and the 24h relative humidity 51%.
If the dew point was 10.5C when the air temps was 37.2C the heat index would be 36C
Heat Index Calculation




Here is a comparison of average morning and afternoon RH levels for Chicago(ORD) and three NYC stations. On an average afternoon, at ORD, the afternoon heat index is about 31C in July. Which is 2C higher than the air temp. NYC is slightly less humid.


Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 11-23-2014, 09:22 AM
 
Location: Finland
24,128 posts, read 24,808,159 times
Reputation: 11103
Quote:
Originally Posted by chicagogeorge View Post
If the dew point was 10.5C when the air temps was 37.2C the heat index would be 36C
Heat Index Calculation




Here is a comparison of average morning and afternoon RH levels for Chicago(ORD) and three NYC stations. On an average afternoon, at ORD, the afternoon heat index is about 31C in July. Which is 2C higher than the air temp. NYC is slightly less humid.

As you said yourself, European heat is mostly dry, and my example reinforce that point. When we recorded the highest temp this summer (32.6C), the DP was 17C, giving a heat index of 33C, but a couple of hours earlier the heat index was 31C at a temp of "only" 29.4C (19.4C DP), so the higher the temp went, the lower the RH fell.

Our highest DP was 20.5C this summer, but it occured early morning when the temp was merely 21C.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 11-23-2014, 09:25 AM
 
Location: Bologna, Italy
7,501 posts, read 6,291,749 times
Reputation: 3761
annual RH in my city is almost 74%.

32% RH is actually pretty dry for me (and great)
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 11-23-2014, 09:49 AM
 
29,523 posts, read 19,620,154 times
Reputation: 4542
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ariete View Post
As you said yourself, European heat is mostly dry, and my example reinforce that point. When we recorded the highest temp this summer (32.6C), the DP was 17C, giving a heat index of 33C, but a couple of hours earlier the heat index was 31C at a temp of "only" 29.4C (19.4C DP), so the higher the temp went, the lower the RH fell.

Our highest DP was 20.5C this summer, but it occured early morning when the temp was merely 21C.
Correct, European heat is mostly a dry variety aside for the coastal Med as countless discussions on this board have shown.

Unlike the US where dew points can be ridiculously high a thousand+ miles away from any large body of water.


Like this example from July 2011 showing heat indecies in Iowa at 129F/54C and North Dakota at 122F/50C



From that July, my suburb it felt like 46C at 10:15AM




and the very next day the heat index was 41C before 9AM and 48C at 11:15AM



http://www.wunderground.com/history/...lyHistory.html
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 11-23-2014, 01:03 PM
 
3,749 posts, read 4,966,930 times
Reputation: 3672
IMO yes. That's a dewpoint of 66 or so isn't it? If the absolutely humidity at 80F was the same people would consider it muggy.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 11-23-2014, 02:00 PM
 
Location: Bremerhaven, NW Germany
2,714 posts, read 3,044,226 times
Reputation: 934
I would say its slightly humid yes. If it would ever reach 37°C here (hasn't yet officially), a humidity of 20-25% might be more typical here in my opinion, maybe even below 20%.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 11-23-2014, 04:51 PM
 
Location: Sydney, Australia
11,655 posts, read 12,956,707 times
Reputation: 6391
Quote:
Originally Posted by G8RCAT View Post
Isn't this thread about humidity? I was not referring to the air temperature.
I just didn't exactly get what you meant by, "pretty good for Sydney during a heat wave"? The humidity was higher than you expected I guess?

Last edited by Ethereal; 11-23-2014 at 05:11 PM..
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 11-23-2014, 10:08 PM
 
Location: Lexington, KY
12,278 posts, read 9,454,092 times
Reputation: 2763
Quote:
Originally Posted by theropod View Post
I just didn't exactly get what you meant by, "pretty good for Sydney during a heat wave"? The humidity was higher than you expected I guess?
Yes. I see the periods of heat in Sydney are usually extremely dry, so to occur with a dew point of 18C is somewhat remarkable for your climate. In fact, even the notorious New Orleans saw 36% humidity when it was 37C:

Weather History for New Orleans, LA | Weather Underground
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:


Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Weather

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 06:46 AM.

© 2005-2024, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Contact Us - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 - Top