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View Poll Results: What other climate features should they add to the Wikipedia climate boxes?
Lowest maximums/highest minimums 30 60.00%
Dewpoints 24 48.00%
Wind speed 19 38.00%
Evaporation rate 8 16.00%
Number of clear days 12 24.00%
Other (please state) 3 6.00%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 50. You may not vote on this poll

 
 
Old 12-09-2014, 12:33 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Ariete View Post
Who are "they"? The users make wikipedia, not "they, them or somebody". All these additions may be useful and I would gladly add them to Finnish cities' boxes, but for example average DP's are nowhere to be found.

Feel free to create an account, dig the net and add all information possible. In text if it's not possible in the boxes. It's up to you.
You can calculate the average dew point yourself if you have the average relative humidity.
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Old 12-09-2014, 01:40 PM
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Location: Surrey/London
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You can calculate the average dew point yourself if you have the average relative humidity.
These are the average afternoon dewpoints for London using the average max and the afternoon rel humidity.

Jan: 4.3C
Feb: 3.6C
Mar: 4.8C
Apr: 5.5C
May: 9.2C
Jun: 12.5C
Jul: 15.0C
Aug: 15.5C
Sep: 13.1C
Oct: 10.1C
Nov: 7.5C
Dec: 5.2C
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Old 12-09-2014, 04:50 PM
 
Location: Sydney, Australia
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Who are "they"? The users make wikipedia, not "they, them or somebody". All these additions may be useful and I would gladly add them to Finnish cities' boxes, but for example average DP's are nowhere to be found..
I'm a Wikipedia contributor myself. By "they" I was obviously referring to those who regularly edit it (I don't think I needed to be more specific).

You're so pedantic.
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Old 12-09-2014, 04:57 PM
 
Location: Serres, Greece
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I'm a Wikipedia contributor myself. By "they" I was obviously referring to those who regularly edit it (I don't think I needed to be more specific).

You're so pedantic.
And I have an account at wikipedia and made maps but I don 't know how to add these new information I tried to add for exaple thunderstorm days in this type "|jan thunderstorm days=0.1" for example and the whole year and it didn 't appear in the box. I just wrote it.
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Old 12-09-2014, 05:14 PM
 
Location: Sydney, Australia
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And I have an account at wikipedia and made maps but I don 't know how to add these new information I tried to add for exaple thunderstorm days in this type "|jan thunderstorm days=0.1" for example and the whole year and it didn 't appear in the box. I just wrote it.
I tried the same thing too with dewpoints. It didn't work.

I'm guessing it's in their system. The climate boxes aren't open-for-all. You can't just add new climatic features. The contributors usually join up on the talk page and make a consensus. They would decide to add the new features or not (Wiki users can vote by adding YES or NO to a pending implement).
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Old 12-09-2014, 05:17 PM
 
Location: Serres, Greece
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I tried the same thing too with dewpoints. It didn't work.

I'm guessing it's in their system. The climate boxes aren't open-for-all. You can't just add new climatic features. The contributors usually join up on the talk page and make a consensus. They would decide to add the new features or not (Wiki users can vote by adding YES or NO).
Yes I think that too.
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Old 12-09-2014, 05:22 PM
 
Location: Vernon, British Columbia
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Forget adding more boxes, they should remove the humidity section. I notice that for Canada most weather boxes say "average humidity", but it's actually afternoon relative humidity.
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Old 12-09-2014, 05:49 PM
 
Location: Victoria, BC, Canada
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These are the average afternoon dewpoints for London using the average max and the afternoon rel humidity.

Jan: 4.3C
Feb: 3.6C
Mar: 4.8C
Apr: 5.5C
May: 9.2C
Jun: 12.5C
Jul: 15.0C
Aug: 15.5C
Sep: 13.1C
Oct: 10.1C
Nov: 7.5C
Dec: 5.2C
These numbers look quite high, how did you calculate them?

Weatherbase shows average dew points about 3C lower than yours.

London, England Travel Weather Averages (Weatherbase)
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Old 12-10-2014, 01:21 AM
B87
 
Location: Surrey/London
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Weatherbase is completely wrong for London. It's the afternoon relative humidity average, about 62% in the summer months, and the average highs. Weatherspark shows dew points peaking at 15c in August, which is closer to reality. I would never trust anything Weatherbase says regarding London.

I just tried another calculator, and a relative humidity of 62% with a temperature of 23.5c gives a dew point of 15.8c. In fact, using their own humidity averages, you get a dew point of 14c in July and August. Not sure where they plucked 11-12c from.

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Old 12-10-2014, 02:21 AM
 
Location: Vancouver, WA
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That is a surprisingly high dew point. That is higher than Portland's in August I think.
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