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Old 04-29-2015, 09:47 AM
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Climates on the East Coast of the US at similar latitudes have a similar lag as well. NYC is colder in February than December.
Some northern very maritime spots along the east coast have March almost the same as December. Think somewhere near or on Cape Cod is like that (41°N).

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Sable Island is similar.
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Old 04-29-2015, 09:48 AM
 
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Coastal California has the same asymmetric lag, with little winter lag but a large summer lag. Perhaps some similar mechanism is happening where you are.
I wonder what causes this, the lower and central Midwest sees a similar pattern but to a less extent. I made a thread on it a month ago but it got ignored lol.


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Old 04-29-2015, 11:56 AM
 
Location: Rimini, Emilia-Romagna, Italy (44°0 N)
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Coastal California has the same asymmetric lag, with little winter lag but a large summer lag. Perhaps some similar mechanism is happening where you are.
I've noticed this fact and I don't get it. Some cities haven't a winter lag at all, just like some continental climates.
Why do some areas of the Pacific Northwest and California have December slightly colder than January if they are strongly influenced by the ocean? Does the ocean cool fast in November?

This happens both on coastal cities like Seattle, Bellingham, Astoria, Eureka, San Jose, Long Beach, and inland cities like Portland, Eugene, Medford, Redding, Sacramento, Fresno, Paso Robles, Santa Ana...
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Old 04-29-2015, 02:00 PM
 
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Coastal California has the same asymmetric lag, with little winter lag but a large summer lag. Perhaps some similar mechanism is happening where you are.
I would have thought sun angle explains the winter - August and September are warmer than June and May, which would be expected as days are longer

Sun angle doesn't explain summer though, but it could be less cold, dry southerlies during February -April compared to October to December.

January is only 0.5C colder than February, and that could probably be explained by one less rain day in February and slightly more sun.
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Old 04-30-2015, 03:08 PM
 
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I would have thought February colder than January, was common in Continental climates. While subtropical, Oceanic and Med climates would have warmer a February.
I actually thought the opposite as well.

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Vancouver and Seattle are also warmer in February than in January (and January is even warmer than December).
And December is the coldest month in such ocean influenced climates. It is confusing, a bit. It seems like the ocean does not influence their temperatures that much in December for some reason but starts to influence them more since January again.
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Old 05-05-2015, 03:07 AM
 
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February is the coldest months here, and it's because of the thick snowpack and less cloud cover, leading to cold soil and warmth escaping quickly to the lower atmosphere. Guess the reason is the same in parts of Russia. Additionally, the frozen shores of the Baltic Sea enhances this effect.
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Old 05-05-2015, 09:18 AM
 
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Here in NW England February is on average colder than January, because sea temperatures are at their lowest, and the winds are generally straight off the Atlantic, most of the time, so much oceanic influence, and winter seasonal lag.
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Old 05-05-2015, 11:59 AM
 
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It seems February is colder in SW UK as well..

Looking at Winter 2013-2014 for Plymouth - It didn't even record a single freeze!

December: 10.5C/6.5C
January: 10.1C/5.2C
February: 10C/5.5C

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Old 05-06-2015, 01:32 AM
 
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Here in NW England February is on average colder than January, because sea temperatures are at their lowest, and the winds are generally straight off the Atlantic, most of the time, so much oceanic influence, and winter seasonal lag.
Sea temperature can't be the only factor as many places would have their coldest sea temperatures in February/August, while still having a warmer February/August than January/July.

Latitude and sun angle, might offset sea temperature, although that doesn't explain the North American west coast.
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Old 05-06-2015, 07:33 AM
 
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No it doesn't I've also wondered why their February seems to get warmer that quickly. Maybe their prevailing wind comes from a different direction than straight over the sea during those months. They are quite a bit south of us latitude wise and have a lot more sun hours in February than we do so could also be to do with stronger sun and more sun hours then making the temperatures rise quicker.
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