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Old 08-13-2015, 02:56 PM
 
Location: Leeds, UK
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I wish that Atlantic cold anomaly would **** off. Useless pile of ****.
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Old 08-13-2015, 03:24 PM
 
Location: Near the Coast SWCT
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Wonder if that "blue blob" is because of Ice bergs and melting Ice sheets from past decade?


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I think I may postpone my road trip for January or February if that's the case.
Watch December be brutally cold and then we'll say "this is why it happened". LOL. We're always trying to find ways to predict or justify but in the end we don't know until it happens. But that's what makes it so interesting... trying to figure it all out. It's fun. its fun to find out what works more than not.


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Great post. Yes I have been looking at 1958 Jan and Feb and you are right. Very cold for us in Philly, but even colder in the SE.
Not sure if I posted it but here are the month by month that winter...

December 1957



January 1958




February 1958 Big Blizzard that month.



http://www.erh.noaa.gov/er/lwx/winter/md-winter.html

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February 15-17 1958: A severe nor'easter began on the 15th. During moderate to heavy snowfall, north winds blew at 25 mph with gusts to 35 mph creating blizzard conditions and subzero wind chills. A 50 mile wide band of 15 to 20 inches of snow fell from Washington, DC northeast through Baltimore County. While Frederick and Emmitsburg reported 10 inches, areas to the west only received 4 to 8 inches fell. Over the Delmarva Peninsula, the Lower Eastern Shore saw a trace to an inch of snow with an inch of rain, but the Upper Shore (including Easton) and Delaware recieved as much as a foot of snow. Calvert and Charles County also saw 10 to 16 inches of snow. Washington, DC reported 14 inches, Baltimore 15.5 inches, Dundalk 18 inches, Pikesville 22 inches, Westminister 15 inches and Bel Air 17 inches. Temperatures were just below freezing when the storm began and then feel throught the 20�s.

When the snow ended, the temperature fell to 3�F at Frindeship International Airport outside Baltimore. Winds increased to 35 mph with gusts to 45 mph on the 16th. The additional blowing and severe drifting of snow paralyzed all transportation by land, air, rail and highway. Some drifts were 5 to 6 feet deep and the winds continued through the 17th. Talbot County reported 8 foot drifts. Thousands of motorists were marooned. At the Bowie race track over 5000 people were stranded while the Pennsylvania Railroad sent rescue trains which were delayed many hours. Schools remained closed until the 24th in North-central Maryland and surrounding areas. Severe thunderstorms were reported during the intense nor'easter. Annapolis reported lightning and wind gust to 58 mph. Lightning was also reported at Tacoma Park. Wind damage was considerable in Talbot and Dorchester Counties. Many trees were blown down, telephone service was cut, and electric service was disrupted. Damages were estimated at 500 million dollars in Maryland, Delaware and DC.
From NWS Albany

http://www.weather.gov/aly/MajorWinterStorms

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A coastal storm brought strong winds and heavy snow to the northeast. Over 30" of snow was reported across the Catskills and in western New England, with 17.9" at Albany. Travel of any sort became impossible, and drifting of the snow blocked most roads and highways. Operation "Haylift" was instituted, where helicopters dropped food for stranded cattle.
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Old 08-13-2015, 03:33 PM
 
Location: Northern Ireland and temporarily England
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Why is our ocean the only real cold place in earth?
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Old 08-13-2015, 04:45 PM
 
Location: New York
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Another February from hell? I sincerely hope not, I can't handle a repeat of last February, that was just senseless.
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Old 08-13-2015, 05:45 PM
 
Location: Leeds, UK
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Wonder if that "blue blob" is because of Ice bergs and melting Ice sheets from past decade?
Melting Greenland ice sheets apparently. Not only has it ruined our chances of sustained summer heat, but will probably scupper our chances at a cold winter if the jet stream aligns along the deep SST gradient and sends a load of unsettled nonsense our way. A winter of rain will be severely depressing.

But, at the same time, NW winds will be colder than normal.
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Old 08-13-2015, 07:39 PM
 
Location: Indiana Uplands
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Another February from hell? I sincerely hope not, I can't handle a repeat of last February, that was just senseless.
Now that I a bit further south again it will probably be a blowtorch. Madison, WI averages were about 20F for highs and 0F for lows for both February 2014 and 2015.
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Old 08-13-2015, 10:02 PM
 
Location: Mid Atlantic USA
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Another February from hell? I sincerely hope not, I can't handle a repeat of last February, that was just senseless.

No it won't be on that order. Feb 2014 was around -11F below the mean for us I think. Feb 1958 was -7F below the mean. Still well well below average month. So while it won't be as bad as last year, it will still be what is considered a very cold winter. And March will be below avg as well if 1958 is anything to go by.
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Old 08-13-2015, 10:42 PM
 
Location: Fort Worth, Texas
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I agree with some predictions of this winter not being as severe as last winter, and certainly not a repeat of the winter of 2013-2014; at least a repeat of that winter is highly unlikely for Indianapolis for this coming winter, I personally have no predictions as of yet, but I will be making a bolder prediction in November based on what the initial weather conditions are at that time.
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Old 08-14-2015, 04:50 AM
 
Location: Near the Coast SWCT
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This tells me exactly what those El Nino maps show how the Polar jet is more northwards and could benefit Quebec and New England more. This might not be a mid west winter.

Strong El Nino years.

Philly Snowfall Totals

1957-58: 42"
1965-66: 23"
1972-73: T

Burlington,VT Snowfall Totals

1957-58: 95"
1965-66: 112"
1972-73: 90"

Get your Ski's ready.
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Old 08-14-2015, 05:17 AM
 
Location: Near the Coast SWCT
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You want homework? Now this is getting some homework done. Nice work Scott!! WOW

Scott Sabol's World of Weather: A Deeper Look At The Top 10 El Ninos Since 1870

The top ten El Ninos are as follows:
1877-78, 1888-89, 1982-83, 1997-98, 1896-97, 1902-03, 1905-06, 1940-41, 1957-58, 1972-73
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