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Old 09-14-2015, 08:04 AM
 
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Let's pray for the Modokai.
Very possible if region 1 and 2 keep cooling the way they are


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Old 09-15-2015, 09:39 AM
 
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This would suck

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Old 09-15-2015, 02:43 PM
 
Location: Indiana Uplands
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This would suck
Is the current negative PNA connected at all to El Nino, or unrelated? I find it interesting that the PNA is forecasted to be strongly negative for many weeks.
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Old 09-15-2015, 02:59 PM
 
Location: Near the Coast SWCT
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Is the current negative PNA connected at all to El Nino, or unrelated? I find it interesting that the PNA is forecasted to be strongly negative for many weeks.
PNA more related to Nino than NAO is due to the Pacific influence. I'm not sure if there were any years with an El Nino and a positive PNA average. probably why average maps show warmth for us.
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Old 09-15-2015, 03:00 PM
 
Location: Near the Coast SWCT
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Havent seen the video yet..

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Old 09-15-2015, 03:05 PM
 
Location: Norman, OK
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This would suck
Winter cancel.
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Old 09-15-2015, 03:20 PM
 
Location: Indiana Uplands
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PNA more related to Nino than NAO is due to the Pacific influence. I'm not sure if there were any years with an El Nino and a positive PNA average. probably why average maps show warmth for us.
So basically the signal gets stronger during Fall and Winter with an ongoing ENSO event then? That could be a big factor toward shifting the scale to above average temperatures for the East if this stays consistent.
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Old 09-15-2015, 03:58 PM
 
Location: Near the Coast SWCT
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So basically the signal gets stronger during Fall and Winter with an ongoing ENSO event then? That could be a big factor toward shifting the scale to above average temperatures for the East if this stays consistent.
Yup... But my saving grace is that the peak of Nino to come in a couple weeks. A weakening El Nino will give way to another driver of the pattern. There is a lag effect and that's why many are banking on a 2nd half cold winter and maybe why some analogs have that as well.

Just found this... .. meanwhile we don't have that this year...

Global Patterns - Pacific/North American (PNA) | State Climate Office of North Carolina

" The Pacific/North American teleconnection pattern (PNA) is one of the most recognized, influential climate patterns in the Northern Hemisphere mid-latitudes beyond the tropics. It consists of anomalies in the geopotential height fields (typically at 700 or 500mb) observed over the western and eastern United States.

It is important to note that the PNA has been found to be strongly influenced by the El Niño-Southern Oscillation (ENSO) phenomenon. The positive phase of the PNA pattern tends to be associated with Pacific warm episodes (El Niño), and the negative phase tends to be associated with Pacific cold episodes (La Niña)."
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Old 09-15-2015, 04:58 PM
 
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UK Met model hammering Europe this winter... Shades of 09-10'? Also pulling ridge further west in North America. East Coast might see a lot of action this winter. Still worried about the Midwest

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Old 09-16-2015, 04:59 AM
 
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