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Old 12-09-2015, 10:45 AM
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Location: Tennessee
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Urban Heat Islands?
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Old 12-09-2015, 10:48 AM
 
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Thank you for the info!

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Washington Reagan: 32
Washington Dulles hit 23
What is the problem with these two??
One happens to be very affected by the UHI and the other is located in a frost hollow??
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Old 12-09-2015, 10:53 AM
 
Location: South Jersey
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All locations in these states dropped below 32.
Maine:

Vermont:
New Hampshire:
Rhode Island:
Massachusetts:
Connecticut:


The only Locations that have not dropped BELOW 32°F


NJ
Atlantic City: 35 on 11/24


NY
LaGuardia: 33 on 11/24
NYC: 32 on 11/24


PA
Philly: 32 on 12/6


VA


Washington Reagan: 32
Washington Dulles hit 23
Ugh, truly pathetic fall and early winter. But I guess cold weather doesn't matter as much to me as snow. If it's not going to snow, then at least it isn't warm.
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Old 12-09-2015, 10:57 AM
 
Location: South Jersey
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Maybe some glimmer of hope in the forecast? Friday the 18th seems to be showing up as notably colder. Still too far out though.
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Old 12-09-2015, 12:15 PM
 
Location: Near the Coast SWCT
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Thank you for the info!

What is the problem with these two??
One happens to be very affected by the UHI and the other is located in a frost hollow??
Even with snowfall it's pretty big difference. DCA is right near the River, smaller airport but closer to downtown, IAD is the bigger airport with International flights. The River & being close to the concrete jungle makes the difference.

Feb 21, 2015 snowstorm.
IAD 8.9"
DCA 2.6"






I've had clouds all day and wondered if anyone else had. I look around and all I see is clouds.


Looks like its clear over the waters and in most of NY state and Western PA. I don't mind.. only 40s today


2pm Temps and Satellite.







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Maybe some glimmer of hope in the forecast? Friday the 18th seems to be showing up as notably colder. Still too far out though.

Yup.. Say hello to the Arctic air. Euro12z for Dec 18th. We'll see. and We'll see how long it lasts. I'll make a bet less than 3 days



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Old 12-09-2015, 06:09 PM
 
Location: Near the Coast SWCT
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Just came across this. Saw the quick video, haven't read the write up yet. Not sure I agree with what he said in the video. Polar Vortex is "weak"? It's actually strong right now just continuing to circulate and build because it hasn't split off.


What happened to the polar vortex? - Blog


What happened to the polar vortex - Video

What happened to the polar vortex?


The past two years you heard polar vortex almost every day, but what happened to it, and where is it now?


The polar vortex has weakened and retreated north. It is centered, as its name would suggest, over the North Pole.


The system is a weather feature that is almost always present. The spinning of the globe creates various circulations that consistently occur, and the polar vortex is one of them, but most of the time it is centered around the North Pole area.


Starting in January 2014, the polar vortex circulation tightened and started to essentially rotate faster. It's the same process as a surface low pressure system increasing in strength.
At the same time, the polar vortex shifted southward. This move brought the center of the polar vortex about 300 miles north of Michigan. That's where it stayed - on our side of the globe - until last spring.
Since then, the abnormal strength and position south has been evolving back to a normal position.





This upper air chart from December 8, 2015 shows where the polar vortex currently is located. It is located at the North Pole and very weak.



The first image shows the current position of the polar vortex. It's actually hard to find because it is much weaker. The strength of a circulation on these maps is strong when there are a lot of black circulation lines around the vortex.
The next image shows what the polar vortex looked like in February 2014, when it was strong and far south of its normal position.





The polar vortex on February 27, 2014 was centered just north of Michigan. (source: NOAA/Mark Torregrossa)


You can see the center of a strong circulation just north of Michigan and just south of Hudson Bay. That was the polar vortex position in February 2014. That cold air aloft, circulating in a stormy manner, produced lots of cold and snow over the past two years.
It's a natural cycle most likely. We've had these bouts of two to three years of cold weather in the past. A great example is the late 1970s. The polar vortex slipped our way then, and brought us colder than normal weather for a few years.


And as in 1980, the polar vortex has retreated to its typical position, the North Pole, and its speed of circulation has slowed.


El Niño is the buzzword this winter, and most likely is the reason for our abnormally warm start to winter. But had El Niño not developed, we would still have been warmer than the past two years. The reason: The polar vortex has gone home. And it seems to be staying home.


If you have any weather questions, please ask below.
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Old 12-09-2015, 07:46 PM
 
Location: Mid Atlantic USA
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Just came across this. Saw the quick video, haven't read the write up yet. Not sure I agree with what he said in the video. Polar Vortex is "weak"? It's actually strong right now just continuing to circulate and build because it hasn't split off.


What happened to the polar vortex? - Blog


What happened to the polar vortex - Video

What happened to the polar vortex?


The past two years you heard polar vortex almost every day, but what happened to it, and where is it now?


The polar vortex has weakened and retreated north. It is centered, as its name would suggest, over the North Pole.


The system is a weather feature that is almost always present. The spinning of the globe creates various circulations that consistently occur, and the polar vortex is one of them, but most of the time it is centered around the North Pole area.


Starting in January 2014, the polar vortex circulation tightened and started to essentially rotate faster. It's the same process as a surface low pressure system increasing in strength.
At the same time, the polar vortex shifted southward. This move brought the center of the polar vortex about 300 miles north of Michigan. That's where it stayed - on our side of the globe - until last spring.
Since then, the abnormal strength and position south has been evolving back to a normal position.





This upper air chart from December 8, 2015 shows where the polar vortex currently is located. It is located at the North Pole and very weak.



The first image shows the current position of the polar vortex. It's actually hard to find because it is much weaker. The strength of a circulation on these maps is strong when there are a lot of black circulation lines around the vortex.
The next image shows what the polar vortex looked like in February 2014, when it was strong and far south of its normal position.





The polar vortex on February 27, 2014 was centered just north of Michigan. (source: NOAA/Mark Torregrossa)


You can see the center of a strong circulation just north of Michigan and just south of Hudson Bay. That was the polar vortex position in February 2014. That cold air aloft, circulating in a stormy manner, produced lots of cold and snow over the past two years.
It's a natural cycle most likely. We've had these bouts of two to three years of cold weather in the past. A great example is the late 1970s. The polar vortex slipped our way then, and brought us colder than normal weather for a few years.


And as in 1980, the polar vortex has retreated to its typical position, the North Pole, and its speed of circulation has slowed.


El Niño is the buzzword this winter, and most likely is the reason for our abnormally warm start to winter. But had El Niño not developed, we would still have been warmer than the past two years. The reason: The polar vortex has gone home. And it seems to be staying home.


If you have any weather questions, please ask below.



Well what I say, if 1980 is anything to go by, then be very afraid (unless you love extreme cold). From 1981 to 1989 the vortex basically parked itself around Montreal. What a joke this whole post seems. He can't be serious. Anyone using the 1980's to talk about a lack of cold and return to normalcy has no clue what they are talking about. January 1985 anyone?
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Old 12-10-2015, 04:17 AM
 
Location: Lizard Lick, NC
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forecast low of 62 on Sunday. the day after the high is 68 and low 42 so its not a backdoor coldfront.
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Old 12-10-2015, 05:05 AM
 
Location: Near the Coast SWCT
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Euro00z, 850mb temps. Says some folks will go from 10C°+ to -10C. Which means 50s to teens at 4500'.


Pittsburgh 53°F to 14°F
North Carolina 60s to below freezing!


Monday Evening left. Tuesday Evening right.


2 storms cutting to Great Lakes sending warm air up Eastern U.S. Storms are cutting thanks in part of the SE Ridge.


Notice whats behind the storms. REFRESHING!





Saturday evening. Below freezing for the Gulf coast hills. Nice push finally!


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Old 12-10-2015, 05:48 AM
 
Location: Key Biscayne, FL
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Euro00z, 850mb temps. Says some folks will go from 10C°+ to -10C. Which means 50s to teens at 4500'.


Pittsburgh 53°F to 14°F
North Carolina 60s to below freezing!


Monday Evening left. Tuesday Evening right.


2 storms cutting to Great Lakes sending warm air up Eastern U.S. Storms are cutting thanks in part of the SE Ridge.


Notice whats behind the storms. REFRESHING!





Saturday evening. Below freezing for the Gulf coast hills. Nice push finally!

Any chance of some of that air making it to Florida?
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