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If it wasn't about slavery, then why did the Southern states break away and what exactly was the federal government being overzealous about? Please elaborate beyond simply talking about state rights and explain the specific issues.
Had the last Yuengling. Now I am drinking some vodka mixed with Cherry Coke Zero. Meh.. I don't care much for mixed drinks. I'd rather be having more beer.
Same here. I've really learned to appreciate beer lately.
Really? Damn, how much did you have to drink the previous night?
Too much rum and coke. I can't remember the exact amount, though obviously it was too much lol. I drank like a complete amateur that night. Not enough water and worst of all, I skipped dinner.
Even beer and wine don't sound appealing, though I've never gotten sick from either.
Having some beers. I usually don't drink on Sundays but since my weekend was **** I might as well enjoy the last day.
I just cracked open my second beer. Had a rough day at work and it's hot too, nice day for a cold one.
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Speaking of ugly histories, doesn't that include the USA? Hell, every nation has an ugly part of its history.
Yes it does, but the USA was not specifically founded to preserve slavery, was it? The UK banned slavery after US independence, not before. The Founders wanted slavery banned in the late 1700s, but the Southern states, yet again, would have refused to join the new Union and sign the new constitution if slavery wasn't going to be permitted in the Southern states. There's your sign. Unlike most Neo-Confederates alive today and their Yankee sympathizers, I actually stayed awake in US history class.
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Same here. I've really learned to appreciate beer lately.
How is it? If my neighbor was taking dumps outside and I can smell their ****, I'd be offended and call the cops too. You do not have unlimited property rights, and nor should you
How is it? If my neighbor was taking dumps outside and I can smell their ****, I'd be offended and call the cops too. You do not have unlimited property rights, and nor should you
I don't agree with unlimited property rights, no. And I think it's in the public interest to minimize externalities associated with your property use. So noise and things like that should be regulated. But you have to be reasonable. Do you really want to live in a country where you can't have a barbeque in your own backyard? Some "free" country...
And the issue to me seems not to be lack of property rights, but excessive property rights. I think this where a more collectively-mined society is better. With the USA's rampant individualism, it's no surprise neighbors would complain about barbecue smells. After all, property rights, money, and individualism seem to be high values according to this society, and consequently all externalities are subject to litigation. A healthier society would have a more level-headed approach.
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Hell, every nation has an ugly part of its history.