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View Poll Results: Which do you think is more likely
A White Christmas in Miami 19 48.72%
A Brown Christmas in Barrow 20 51.28%
Voters: 39. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 07-30-2015, 07:12 AM
 
Location: Yorkshire, England
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I went for Miami since it has at least snowed there before. I think somebody posted info about Christmas 1989 being cold enough for accumulating snow even though it actually stayed dry?

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Definitely a brown Christmas in Barrow. Miami has never received accumulating snow before, while Barrow I'm sure has received a brown Christmas. I think a better comparison would be a place like Yakutsk.
What makes you think that, am I missing something?

If the record high for all of December is 34F (presumably early in the month) the snowpack isn't going to melt anywhere near Christmas, and they've usually had about 20 inches of snow by then, so even a record dry and mild year would probably still have at least 5 inches fall after temperatures had fallen below freezing. You think all that could sublimate or blow away?
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Has Barrow ever recorded a "Brown" winter day?
No.

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Old 07-30-2015, 07:19 AM
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I went for Miami since it has at least snowed there before. I think somebody posted info about Christmas 1989 being cold enough for accumulating snow even though it actually stayed dry?
Often the coldest air masses are dry ones, so that might not be enough. But if it has snowed before, I'd go with Miami too.
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White Xmas in Miami, they've had snow falling twice before. Has Barrow ever had a green/brown winter day?
A green winter day?!
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Old 07-30-2015, 07:26 AM
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A green winter day?!
Do they not have grass there?
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Old 07-30-2015, 07:29 AM
 
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Do they not have grass there?
It's not even green in summer!

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Old 07-30-2015, 07:39 AM
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Do they not have grass there?
Yes, but of course it couldn't green in the winter.
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Old 07-30-2015, 08:05 AM
 
Location: Broward County, FL
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I went for Miami since it has at least snowed there before. I think somebody posted info about Christmas 1989 being cold enough for accumulating snow even though it actually stayed dry?



What makes you think that, am I missing something?

If the record high for all of December is 34F (presumably early in the month) the snowpack isn't going to melt anywhere near Christmas, and they've usually had about 20 inches of snow by then, so even a record dry and mild year would probably still have at least 5 inches fall after temperatures had fallen below freezing. You think all that could sublimate or blow away?
Yeah, I realized after posting that that I was wrong. I know Barrow can get above freezing sometimes in winter so that's why I thought maybe it had received a brown Christmas before. To get ACCUMULATING snow in Miami, however, is near impossible. Especially since 99.5% of the time it gets below freezing here it's usually with a bone dry air mass.
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Old 07-30-2015, 11:54 AM
 
Location: Key Biscayne, FL
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Yeah, I realized after posting that that I was wrong. I know Barrow can get above freezing sometimes in winter so that's why I thought maybe it had received a brown Christmas before. To get ACCUMULATING snow in Miami, however, is near impossible. Especially since 99.5% of the time it gets below freezing here it's usually with a bone dry air mass.
Christmas eve 1989 was the coldest day in the past at least 100 years here.

Some Readings

MIA 45/30
Miami Beach 44/32
WPB 42/28

Coldest location in the Miami Proper I found was

43/28

Cold enough (theoretically) for accumulating snow.
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Old 07-30-2015, 11:58 AM
 
Location: Broward County, FL
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Christmas eve 1989 was the coldest day in the past at least 100 years here.

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MIA 45/30
Miami Beach 44/32
WPB 42/28

Coldest location in the Miami Proper I found was

43/28

Cold enough (theoretically) for accumulating snow.
Yeah I know, but 45/30 isn't really cold enough for accumulating snow, unless the high was reached at midnight and it was 30 F during the day for several hours with snow. That would never happen in Miami.
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