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i recall watching a documentary on oymyakon, where a guy living there said that you started getting problems with closing and opening the eye-lids if you weren't blinking more than usual at temperatures below -58C. don't know if there's any truth to that..
AT LEAST you have the option of dressing in layers at -25 F. 90 F just about requires a fan or air conditioner, rather than trying to limit clothing.
And -25°F, even positive 25°F for an extended period of time requires layers. I'd rather have low 90s than 25°F. Or 40s. Maybe even 50s. I like, enjoy the feeling of warmth on my skin and don't like being bundled up. Don't find 90°F that big of a deal though annoying when active.
And -25°F, even positive 25°F for an extended period of time requires layers. I'd rather have low 90s than 25°F. Or 40s. Maybe even 50s. I like, enjoy the feeling of warmth on my skin and don't like being bundled up. Don't find 90°F that big of a deal though annoying when active.
Yeah, 90 F is really only a big problem when you're trying to be active (which I do a lot, so that's why I find South FL annoying). Humidity here is probably much higher at 90 F than it is up there though.
I've been running at 25 F and it felt pretty awesome though rather cold at first. I was overjoyed to warm up to a tolerable temp rather than "warm up" to heat exhaustion.
I think the ideal temperature for a run would be about 50 F.
Yeah, 90 F is really only a big problem when you're trying to be active (which I do a lot, so that's why I find South FL annoying). Humidity here is probably much higher at 90 F than it is up there though.
In summer, you can always be out in early morning if you wake up and get out fast enough. We get a bigger diurnal range than you. I meant I prefer an afternoon high in the low 90s over 40s or 50°F. Because the morning temperature would colder than I'd like with 40s or 50s in the afternoon.
We don't get mid 70s dewpoints that often, and mid 60s with heat is more common than low 80s.
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I've been running at 25 F and it felt pretty awesome though rather cold at first. I was overjoyed to warm up to a tolerable temp rather than "warm up" to heat exhaustion.
I think I might have gone running at that temperate
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I think the ideal temperature for a run would be about 50 F.
Sounds about right.
Bicycling I'd say 60-65°F is ideal, because you don't heat quite as much as you and you get a breeze into you. Upper 50s is fine but low 50s is a bit too chilly. I remember shivering slightly on a downhill on a cool morning last month. I don't like having to deal with layers while bicycling, and having to stop and take off or back on as it warms up / hit a cool spot, so I'd prefer mornings not in the 40s. Best hiking temperature is maybe mid 50s to high 60s if dewpoints aren't too high, 50°F only if strenuous uphill though colder isn't a bother when moving that hard. But I don't mind either hiking or biking in temperatures up to the mid 80s, just not ideal. Rather warmer than colder.
Reading these posts, back and forth, cold is better, hot is better, bring back lots of memories. My dad and I had these exact same back and forth conversations about climate that is going on here. We both used many of the same arguments I've seen here.
My Dad loved living in Minnesota completely with it's 6 months or more of cold (sometimes frigidly cold) weather. I was much more the hot house flower who loved being outside always.....but hated being cold. Living in Minnesota, that's a difficult combination to make work....lol.
Dad:
Cold keeps the riff raff away.
Cold keeps the bugs away.
You can always put more clothes on if you're cold, but you can only take so many off when it's hot.
Cold weather builds character.
A wood fire heats 3 times. When you cut it down and haul it home, when you split and stack it, and when you burn it.
If Winters weren't so cold, we'd have too many (millions more I guess he meant) people living here.
It's not healthy to go from an Air conditioned home outside into the extreme heat of Arizona.
Oh god....I've heard all the above hundreds of times and dozens more I can't even remember right now, trust me.
Me:
You don't have to shovel heat....but you sure do have to shovel snow.
Heat rarely causes you to slip and fall causing injury....but we all can and and do slip and fall on ice every winter.
Heat doesn't cause you car to careen out of control causing damage and injury.....but ice can and often does do that.
If the heat went out in a Minnesota home in January, vs the A/C going out in an Airzona home in July....trust me, the Minnesota home owner will be the loser in that scenario.
So Dad, you want to live somewhere solely because most others find the climate too severe and objectionable to them ?
I hate bugs too....but I'd rather have some bugs and be able to be outside, than have no bugs because it's too cold to be outside anyway. Maybe the bugs are smarter than we humans ?
Yes of course you can always put more clothes on, and only take so many off. However, at some point you become like the Michelan man and movent is hindered by your "leg weight" heavy clunky sorel insulated boots. How much fun is it to play "spaceman" day after day in your space suit while going outside ?
Cold and/or adversity of any kind can indeed build character. I won't argue against that point. But I'd always tell him that I think I have enough character by now having grown up here.
So Dad, you think it's unhealthy to go from a 75 degree air conditioned home into the outside temp of 100 or 110 in Arizona....but it's not a problem to go from a 70 degree house into 20 below outside in Minnesota ? I never could figure out his logic there :-)
Obviously, reading these posts, it's the same ol' thing here. Some like it cold, some like it hot. Go find a place that brings you joy and happiness and enjoy life as you see fit. Some us may never understand your choice, but it's your choice to make, as it should be, whether I understand it or not....lol.
Oh yeah, I honestly think outside of Antarctica these are the most hostile conditions on the planet. I don't think there's any cold that can match up with the heat of a Dubai July. I don't think there's any way to really combat 40 C with a 30 C dew point.
However, there are people who live their entire lives, raising families even at subsistence levels of non-technology in Saudi Arabia, Iran, a few even in Dubai. There have been people living in those places for thousands of years. Not so in Antarctica.
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I don't think there's any way to really combat 40 C with a 30 C dew point.
