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Old 10-11-2015, 12:47 PM
 
Location: Top of the South, NZ
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Yeah, it works fine in hot temperatures (unless there is a 25c dewpoint and thus I can't really cool down with evaporation - the air is already saturated with water - which is why humid heat feels more opressive to me), but I hardly sweat at 3c, and if I do, for instance when I'm walking in deep snow, it also means that my clothing will dry faster, whereas damp clothing makes me feel colder.
Yes, but that's not the same as saying higher humidity alone, makes one feel colder.

 
Old 10-11-2015, 12:48 PM
 
Location: Glasgow, UK
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Well it depends what you mean by snow. If you mean falling snow then no it is not rare. I seen snow in May this year.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cmd0tWVQ0qM
Snow doesn't really 'count', in my opinion, unless it accumulates on the ground. The last time Glasgow had lying snow in April was 1998 (I think).
 
Old 10-11-2015, 12:52 PM
 
Location: Northern Ireland and temporarily England
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Lying snow isn't so rare in April in NI as you thought. I average 0.5 days of lying snow in April ,meaning it snows in April (lying) every two years or so. The hills average up to 3 days so it's not that rare is it.



I also average 2/3 days of lying snow in March. So I would say probably about 5 days of lying snow in spring, it's not really that bad.



Look at East Anglia!
 
Old 10-11-2015, 12:52 PM
 
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Snow doesn't really 'count', in my opinion, unless it accumulates on the ground. The last time Glasgow had lying snow in April was 1998 (I think).
I can recall several instances of lying snow in April in the last 10 years or so, school was often cancelled because of it. Although I don't live in Glasgow so I can't speak on your behalf.
 
Old 10-11-2015, 12:56 PM
 
Location: Northern Ireland and temporarily England
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I am surprised that you did not see any see in April since 1998. I can't think of the exact years but I am certain that I have at least 3 years of lying snow in April in the past decade.

2013 was one of the years.
 
Old 10-11-2015, 12:58 PM
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Location: Western Massachusetts
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Lying snow isn't so rare in April in NI as you thought. I average 0.5 days of lying snow in April ,meaning it snows in April (lying) every two years or so. The hills average up to 3 days so it's not that rare is it.



I also average 2/3 days of lying snow in March. So I would say probably about 5 days of lying snow in spring, it's not really that bad.



Look at East Anglia!
0.5 days sounds infrequent

5 days is still pretty bad, but better than here. But when I was talking about frustrating spring, I was talking about the growing season not snow. I think your growing season starts about the same as me, but most English posters have their start earlier.
 
Old 10-11-2015, 01:02 PM
 
Location: Northern Ireland and temporarily England
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Yes it is infrequent but it is important to STRESS that falling snow in April is NOT rare. The sun is much stronger in April so it is a lot harder for the snow to lie.


 
Old 10-11-2015, 01:02 PM
 
Location: Castlederp
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0.5 days sounds infrequent

5 days is still pretty bad, but better than here. But when I was talking about frustrating spring, I was talking about the growing season not snow. I think your growing season starts about the same as me, but most English posters have their start earlier.
Frost free period for Heathrow in last few years, it's even longer in central LDN but not much room to grow much there:

2015: 6th March -
2014: 25th March - 25th November
2013: 7th April - 20th November (after coldest Spring)

I'd imagine in NI the frost free period is probably early May - mid October in an average year
 
Old 10-11-2015, 01:10 PM
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Yes it is infrequent but it is important to STRESS that falling snow in April is NOT rare. The sun is much stronger in April so it is a lot harder for the snow to lie.

Why is it so important? The frost free period is more important, IMO. And if trace snowfalls are included don't see much point in focusing on it at all
 
Old 10-11-2015, 01:12 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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I can see why people would find Scotland and other parts of the UK drab, but London and areas further south are pretty decent if you want some mild weather and sun. Summers there are almost perfect actually.

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17C isn't cold though. Genuinely cold weather, as in say below 4C, feels better with low humidity. I've worked in the Arctic circle where it's been freezing cold, yet the dryness of it doesn't feel that bad.

I know we all have our opinions, and are rightly entitled to them, but I've never know anybody say dry cold feels colder than damp cold. I could probably go on Facebook now and put out a status regarding this, and I'm sure all the people I've worked with would back this up.
This has become an almost controversial view on this forum for some reason.
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