very old climate normals (average, temp, 2014, town)

[Nino Belov]

Originally Posted by Ariete

1961-90 are not "very old climate normals".

And what is it with this new nicknames all the time?

I experienced hacker attack, the reason is politics. In Serbia are elections for few days, and I am anti-regime activist. Regime activists operate of hacker attacks against anti-regime activists.
Yes 1961-1990 climate normals are not that old, but I could not find the older.

[Ariete]

Originally Posted by Nino Belov

I experienced hacker attack, the reason is politics. In Serbia are elections for few days, and I am anti-regime activist. Regime activists operate of hacker attacks against anti-regime activists.

Ok then. Interesting...

[chicagogeorge]

Turn of century Chicago temps (in F). Note temps then taken very close to lakeshore






Compare with today at Northerly Island (also on lakeshore)




Seems as if there has been a substantial warming since that early period.

[Steelernation71]

Rochester 1872-1901:
//www.city-data.com/forum/attac...1&d=1490737798

Much colder in spring and fall but strangely had warmer summer lows. Less snowy too.

[Nino Belov]

I found averages for Belgrade 1861-1890

Jan -1,1
Feb 1,5
Mar 6,1
Apr 12
May 16,6
Jun 20,2
Jul 22,4
Aug 21,3
Sep 17,8
Oct 12,1
Nov 5,8
Dec 0,5

Annual: 11,3


Warmest months in period 1861-1890

January 1863 4,1 , February 1861 7,9 , March 1882 10,6 , April 1876 15,2 , May 1868 20,9 , June 1866 23,8 , July 1874 24,9 , August 1890 24,6 , September 1863 20,1 , October 1889 15 , November 1872 9,4 , December 5,8


Coldest months 1861-1890

January 1864 -9,6 , February 1875 -3,9 , March 1875 0,7 , April 1864 7,6 , May 1874 13,1 , June 1884 17,5 , July 1864 19,8 , August 1882 18,9 , September 1889 14,2 , October 1877 8,7 , November 1876 1,2 , December 1879 -7

[Ethereal]

Originally Posted by Steelernation71

Rochester 1872-1901:
//www.city-data.com/forum/attac...1&d=1490737798

Much colder in spring and fall but strangely had warmer summer lows. Less snowy too.

Really nice summers though.

[Max96]

The period is short since the site I used doesn't provide the monthly/yearly averages, only the weather on specific days. I used Excel for calculation, but it still needed a lot of copy-paste work.

[Max96]

August looks rather cool and freezing temperature during it seems ridiculous, it's perhaps an error due to empty cells being interpreted by Excel as zeroes (there is no data for some months and days), I'll check it tomorrow.

[BMI]

Perfect thread to show recent warming in Phoenix, Arizona...
Hopefully FirebirdCamaro is taking note

PHOENIX 1941-1970.vs..PHOENIX 1981-2010

64.8/37.6........JAN........67.2/45.6
69.3/40.8........FEB........70.7/48.7
74.5/44.8........MAR.......76.9/53.5
83.6/51.8........APR........85.2/60.2
92.9:59.6........MAY........94.8/69.4
101.5/67.7......JUN........103.9/77.7
104.8/77.5......JUL.........106.1/83.5
102.2/76.0......AUG........104.4/82.7
98.4/69.1.......SEP..........99.8:76.9
87.6/56.8.......OCT.........88.5/64.8
74.7/44.8.......NOV........75.5/52.7
66.4/38.5.......DEC........66.0/44.8

Mostly the lows....astonishing warm up...average April lows are now
warmer then old May average lows!!!!

This kind of warm up did not happen everywhere,
if it warmed up like that in southern Ontario I'd be planting palm trees in the backyard

[BMI]

Not only has Phoenix warmed up a lot in recent years but Las Vegas, Nevada too.

LAS VEGAS 1941-1970 vs LAS VEGAS 1981-2010

55.7/32.6..........JAN........58.0/39.4
61.3/36.9..........FEB........62.5/43.4
67.8/41.7..........MAR......70.3/49.4
77.5/50.0.........APR........78.3/56.1
87.5/59.0.........MAY.........88.9/65.8
97.2/62.4.........JUN.........98.7/74.6
103.9/75.3.......JUL.........104.2/80.9
101.5/73.3.......AUG........102.0/79.3
94.8/65.4........SEP..........94.0/71.3
81.0/53.1........OCT..........80.6/58.5
65.7/40.8........NOV.........66.3/46.5
56.7/33.7........DEC.........56.6/38.7

Yes folks, Vegas average January lows used to average just slightly above freezing,
even older climate normals might average show below freezing, I'll have to check