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View Poll Results: Is Victoria, BC's climate Oceanic or Mediterranean according to you?
Oceanic 48 67.61%
Mediterranean 23 32.39%
Voters: 71. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 09-03-2020, 10:52 AM
 
Location: Seattle area
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There is no doubt that were Victoria and its climate placed in England it would be overrun by holiday makers because it would be far and away the sunniest and driest place in the region--and with equivalent temperatures too.

Look at what sun-starved Brits have to put up with on their "summer" holidays.

Cornwall:


Plymouth:


More Cornwall:


Somerset:


Source: Your underwhelming UK holiday photographs
by the way I was in Victoria same time last year and it was beautiful. Many Canadians are moving there for the weather.

 
Old 09-03-2020, 11:07 AM
 
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Considerable parts of northern and eastern Spain aren't Csa, same with northern and eastern Italy, and much of the western Balkans.

The problem is that Csa =/= Mediterranean. Csa is just Csa, a Köppen designation which is linked to the general idea of Mediterranean climate, but not necessarily a match. This is why I extended the concept to the nearby BSk/BSh, because they are still Mediterranean in the sense of having the same overall genetics. It also may apply to some special Cfa zones.

Most of Spain bar the north (which I didn’t consider it as geographically Mediterranean) is mostly Mediterranean in its climate, including Madrid, which also shows strong signs of continentalization. The north of Italy except Liguria is pretty much excluded, but the western Balkans is still very Mediterranean. Podgorica is, despite the Köppen rule for Csa of requiring less than 30 mm in a summer month.
 
Old 09-03-2020, 11:39 AM
 
Location: Northern Virginia
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I am working on the basis of Csa/Csb here rather than any general notion of what constitutes a "Mediterranean" climate beyond that. My whole point is that Csa/Csb should be called something else than Mediterranean - a point you seem to support by expanding your definition of Mediterranean to other climates.
 
Old 09-06-2020, 06:47 AM
 
Location: SE UK
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Originally Posted by Ed's Mountain View Post
There is no doubt that were Victoria and its climate placed in England it would be overrun by holiday makers because it would be far and away the sunniest and driest place in the region--and with equivalent temperatures too.

Look at what sun-starved Brits have to put up with on their "summer" holidays.

Cornwall:


Plymouth:


More Cornwall:


Somerset:


Source: Your underwhelming UK holiday photographs
Rubbish! Posting pictures from 'rainy days' proves nothing! I also notice that all your 'irrelevant' photos are from the SW - one of the wettist parts of the UK anyway! There are plenty of places in the UK with as low or even lower rainfall than Victoria!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southend-on-Sea#Climate
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southend-on-Sea#Climate
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lowestoft#Geography
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Margate#Climate

So - the UK is is some parts warmer, in some parts drier and gets the equivalent of 20mins a day (on average) less sunshine! I know where I would rather spend my Summer break and it isn't in the cold of Victoria!

You are just 'sounding off' because you liked to think that Victoria was some kind of Med equivalent and the truth is its NOWHERE NEAR! Victoria is more of a Bournemouth (with Glaswegian temperatures) than it is Malta!

https://www.mustbevictoria.com/Victoria-BC-weather.html

https://www.vicnews.com/news/victori...-for-november/
What a 'sunny' place this is, Meds not like this, not even in November! I don't think I've ever know anywhere in the UK rain for 28 days solid!! Wow!

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Old 09-06-2020, 08:30 AM
 
Location: Victoria, BC, Canada
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Rubbish! Posting pictures from 'rainy days' proves nothing! I also notice that all your 'irrelevant' photos are from the SW - one of the wettist parts of the UK anyway! There are plenty of places in the UK with as low or even lower rainfall than Victoria!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southend-on-Sea#Climate
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southend-on-Sea#Climate
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lowestoft#Geography
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Margate#Climate

So - the UK is is some parts warmer, in some parts drier and gets the equivalent of 20mins a day (on average) less sunshine! I know where I would rather spend my Summer break and it isn't in the cold of Victoria!

You are just 'sounding off' because you liked to think that Victoria was some kind of Med equivalent and the truth is its NOWHERE NEAR! Victoria is more of a Bournemouth (with Glaswegian temperatures) than it is Malta!
I guess my post wasn't clear. The point was that Victoria is sunnier and drier in the summer than anywhere in England.

None of the places you listed show any kind of seasonal trend in rainfall; all are significantly rainier in summer than Victoria. It rains more in Lowestoft just in August than it does in the entire summer in Victoria. And during the months of summer Victoria averages about 2.5 hours more sun per day.

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https://www.mustbevictoria.com/Victoria-BC-weather.html

https://www.vicnews.com/news/victori...-for-november/
What a 'sunny' place this is, Meds not like this, not even in November! I don't think I've ever know anywhere in the UK rain for 28 days solid!! Wow!
Thank you, that's actually the most important point. It rains a lot here in the winter. In the summer? Not so much. In fact, during its wettest month Victoria receives more than seven times as much rain than during its driest month. Climatologists have a word for this pattern.
 
Old 09-06-2020, 10:29 AM
 
Location: SE UK
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I guess my post wasn't clear. The point was that Victoria is sunnier and drier in the summer than anywhere in England.

None of the places you listed show any kind of seasonal trend in rainfall; all are significantly rainier in summer than Victoria. It rains more in Lowestoft just in August than it does in the entire summer in Victoria. And during the months of summer Victoria averages about 2.5 hours more sun per day.


Thank you, that's actually the most important point. It rains a lot here in the winter. In the summer? Not so much. In fact, during its wettest month Victoria receives more than seven times as much rain than during its driest month. Climatologists have a word for this pattern.
Yeah and 19 degrees centigrade, just what's British holidaymaker wants for a Summer holiday......not! lol I would rather sit on a beach and tan than sit on a beach with my gloves on!
 
Old 09-06-2020, 10:39 AM
 
Location: Top of the South, NZ
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Yeah and 19 degrees centigrade, just what's British holidaymaker wants for a Summer holiday......not! lol I would rather sit on a beach and tan than sit on a beach with my gloves on!
Here it is again - the notion of Koppen as some writer of glossy holiday weather guides, centred around the expectations of the British public.

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Old 09-06-2020, 11:01 AM
 
Location: Seattle area
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Yeah and 19 degrees centigrade, just what's British holidaymaker wants for a Summer holiday......not! lol I would rather sit on a beach and tan than sit on a beach with my gloves on!
Victoria feels a lot warmer than what stats show. I don't know if it's the strong sun but it is t-shirt and shorts weather for the majority of July, August and September.
 
Old 09-06-2020, 01:36 PM
 
Location: Northern Virginia
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Victoria feels a lot warmer than what stats show. I don't know if it's the strong sun but it is t-shirt and shorts weather for the majority of July, August and September.

It's probably the combination of sunshine and humidity given it's on the water.
 
Old 09-06-2020, 05:55 PM
 
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Never been to Victoria but it seems pretty similar to a lot places out here in western Washington which makes sense since it's at a similar latitude (between Everett and Bellingham) and is effected by the same weather patterns and we have (mostly) beautiful summers here...the rest of the year however is basically grey and rainy most of the time.
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