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Old 10-18-2015, 11:33 AM
 
Location: Top of the South, NZ
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San Fran is Csb it almost never gets heat waves, Victoria can sometimes have a hotter summer than San Fran, the difference is the winter. San Fran is subtropical, and Victoria is temperate.
That's not correct. Victoria also qualifies as Csb, which is cool summer Mediterranean.

Csb does not mean subtropical.
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Old 10-18-2015, 12:28 PM
 
Location: Seattle WA, USA
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okay Victoria is Csb but it still is different than San Fran, it would be like saying New York and New Orleans are both Cfa.
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Old 10-18-2015, 12:41 PM
 
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okay Victoria is Csb but it still is different than San Fran, it would be like saying New York and New Orleans are both Cfa.
I don't expect classifications to contain places where the weather is the same, only that the cause of the climates of those different places, is best explained by the classification.

Bergen is Cfb, as it my climate. They're nothing alike though, but Cfb does best explain why the climates are like they are.

NYC and New Orleans is the same, both Cfa . I want the best understanding of the climate,, which Cfa provides, not just stats that a holiday brochure can provide.

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Old 11-04-2015, 03:07 PM
 
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There is no place in the continental US that has an area similar to the Mediterranean....Forget California....too foggy and too many overcast summer days on the coast to qualify as Mediterranean type of weather. Atlantic Florida, comes closer to Mediterranean type of weather than any other place in the US. I should know....I lived in the Med for half my life.
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Old 11-04-2015, 03:32 PM
 
Location: Westminster/Huntington Beach, CA
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There is no place in the continental US that has an area similar to the Mediterranean....Forget California....too foggy and too many overcast summer days on the coast to qualify as Mediterranean type of weather. Atlantic Florida, comes closer to Mediterranean type of weather than any other place in the US. I should know....I lived in the Med for half my life.
SoCal isn't nearly as foggy and cloudy as the central and northern coast. SoCal is definitely closer to a med climate than anywhere in Florida. Also, immediate coastal California isn't the only area in the state considered Mediterranean. Inland areas which rarely get fog or overcast weather share that title as well.
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Old 02-09-2016, 04:09 PM
 
Location: Seattle WA, USA
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So I've been thinking about this again so I want to discuss Csb climates, I will list cities that are sometimes characterized as such, their daily mean for coldest month, how many months of precipitation of less than 40mm, and how many months of daily mean above 10C/50F. And I will list if from warmest to coldest winter

Santa Monica [14C | 57.5F] [8<40mm] [12>10C] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Santa_...fornia#Climate
San Fran [10.7C | 51.3F] [7<40mm] [12>10C] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Francisco#Climate
Monterey [10.45C | 50.8F] [7<40mm] [12>10C] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monter...fornia#Climate
Eureka [8.8C | 47.8F] [4<40mm] [8>10C] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eureka...fornia#Climate
Coos Bay [8C | 46F] [2<40mm] [8>10C] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coos_Bay,_Oregon#Climate
Astoria [5.95C | 43.75F] [2<40mm] [6>10C] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astoria,_Oregon#Climate
Lincoln City [5C | 41.5F] [2<40mm] [6>10C] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lincol...Oregon#Climate
Tacoma [5C | 41.5F] [4<40mm] [7>10C https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tacoma...ington#Climate
Victoria [5C | 41F] [6<40mm] [6>10C] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victor...lumbia#Climate
Oak Harbor [5C | 40.5F] [4<40mm] [7>10C] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oak_Ha...gton#Geography
Seattle [4.8C | 40.65F] [4<40mm] [7>10C] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seattle#Climate
Portland [4.7C | 40.4F] [3<40mm] [7>10C] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portland,_Oregon#Climate
Port Townsend [4.55C | 40.25F] [7<40mm] [6>10C] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Port_T...ington#Climate
Port Angeles [4.2C | 39.5F] [6<40mm] [6>10C] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Port_A...ington#Climate
Vancouver [3.6C | 38.5] [2<40mm] [6>10C] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vancouver#Climate
Olympia [3.55C | 38.4F] [2<40mm] [6>10C] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olympi...hy_and_climate
Sequim [3.55C | 38.35F] [9<40mm] [5>10C] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sequim...ington#Climate
The Dalles [2C | 35.5F] [8<40mm] [7>10C] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Da...Oregon#Climate

So which of these do you think should be weeded out of this list? I would say that definitely any group that has 2 or less months of <40mm shouldn't be included so thats good bye to Vancouver, Olympia, Lincoln City, Coos Bay, and Astoria.

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Isn't The Dalles just a semi-arid climate?
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Old 02-09-2016, 04:26 PM
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The west coast has a lot of microclimates due to topography; you can find climates ranging from 15 to 50 inches of annual rain near San Francisco; and on the Olympic Peninsula from 17 to 110 inches. But the precipitation patterns of climates with the same rainfall aren't the same.

Sequim, WA: 16.2 inches of rain/year, 125 days of rain > 0.01", 51 days of rain > 0.1"
Seattle, WA: 38.3 inches of rain/year, 156 days of rain > 0.01", 94 days of rain > 0.1"

San Francisco, CA: 21.2 inches of rain/year, 68 days of rain > 0.01", 41 days of rain > 0.1"
San Rafael, CA: 35.6 inches of rain/year, 66 days of rain > 0.01", 44 days of rain > 0.1"

Precipitation changes more locally than precipitation days, microclimates vary more in rain intensity than in rain frequency.
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Old 02-09-2016, 04:42 PM
 
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Isn't The Dalles just a semi-arid climate?
Well i added it to the list because it seems sort of transitional, take a closer look and tell me what you think
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Da...Oregon#Climate
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Old 02-09-2016, 04:55 PM
 
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Isn't The Dalles just a semi-arid climate?
And I guess if it is mediterranean, it would be Csa since it has hot summers, but there is a town a little to the west called Mosier, OR. There is no data but it's claimed to be Csb https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mosier,_Oregon#Climate
and its climate is probably something in between The Dalles https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Da...Oregon#Climate
and Hood River
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hood_R...Oregon#Climate
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