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About 3 years ago, when the city council planted some in the city centre. I have my doubts about how long they can survive in suburban gardens here - but given that the lowest temperature in the city centre in 30 years was -8.6C, they have a reasonable shot of surviving there. They don't seem to care about snow, or temperatures down to -5C.
At a rural location like Church Fenton, no way would they survive long given -10C and below occurs more than once a decade - most recently in 2012 but also in 2010.
Here's a picture of them back in August, on a partly cloudy, 26C day..
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I don't think cloudiness has any bearing on whether they look out of place or not, nor the temperature, given they flourish in San Francisco and southern China.. they're just not fitted to English cities IMO. They look fine in Seville or Barcelona but I feel like deciduous trees are most fitted to English cities given the prevailing architecture style here.
Even coniferous trees look out of place to me.
When the trees are turning, and the snow starts falling, they don't look appropriate either.
I actually feel that cloudy weather goes well with palm trees if it's warm and humid at the same time - a common combination in many tropical & subtropical climates.
About 3 years ago, when the city council planted some in the city centre. I have my doubts about how long they can survive in suburban gardens here - but given that the lowest temperature in the city centre in 30 years was -8.6C, they have a reasonable shot of surviving there. They don't seem to care about snow, or temperatures down to -5C.
At a rural location like Church Fenton, no way would they survive long given -10C and below occurs more than once a decade - most recently in 2012 but also in 2010.
Here's a picture of them back in August, on a partly cloudy, 26C day..
I think what is more important than low temp is how many days in a row it is below freezing. I don't think places in the UK get enough ice days to do them in. That is why they should last long term.
I don't think cloudiness has any bearing on whether they look out of place or not, nor the temperature, given they flourish in San Francisco and southern China.. they're just not fitted to English cities IMO. They look fine in Seville or Barcelona but I feel like deciduous trees are most fitted to English cities given the prevailing architecture style here.
Even coniferous trees look out of place to me.
When the trees are turning, and the snow starts falling, they don't look appropriate either.
I actually feel that cloudy weather goes well with palm trees if it's warm and humid at the same time - a common combination in many tropical & subtropical climates.
All comes down to a matter of preference. I'd rather see them all green in winter than all the dead branches of deciduous trees with brown grass.
I will say that towns in England look very nice in winter with deep green grass and some leafless trees. I just think the added greenery of the palms will add to the green grass and give a really cool look with some leafless trees in the mix too. Don't ya think?
I just don't think they fit in with English cities, but that's probably more to do with me not being used to seeing it. I'd definitely find it odd to see a large CIDP next to York Minster. I'll have to look in the museum gardens the next time I'm in town. If anywhere here has them, it will be in there.
As for the cloudiness, I know that's not really the issue, but it just adds to the look of a place like York for instance, not looking like a place that would handle palms.
What is CIDP, because I google it and all I got was chronic inflammatory demyelinating polyneuropathy, and I don't know why you would want to grow that?
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