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How many times have we been seeing these "warm" episodes forecast. I like your theory. The pattern stays exactly the same until it changes for two weeks solid. Not one week of warm, we need to see sustained before we can say pattern change.
Can you provide a simple explanation how no matter what happens all over the country, the PNW manages to always stay above average. wtf? No other area has managed that the last couple years. I just wonder how long this can go on without their long term averages shooting thru the roof.
Can you provide a simple explanation how no matter what happens all over the country, the PNW manages to always stay above average. wtf? No other area has managed that the last couple years. I just wonder how long this can go on without their long term averages shooting thru the roof.
It's worked for me very well many times.
In a warm pattern don't believe the cold shown in the long range until it gets closer in time (3-5 days out). Vise Versa in a cool pattern. Don't believe the heat being shown in the long range until we get closer. Kinda implies The Trend is Your Friend saying. And yeah, I would wait more than just a weeks worth to call it. Sometimes you don't know until a month later it changed.
Can you provide a simple explanation how no matter what happens all over the country, the PNW manages to always stay above average. wtf? No other area has managed that the last couple years. I just wonder how long this can go on without their long term averages shooting thru the roof.
Lol... I don't get your obsession with the PNW.
Last 12 months the PNW saw positive anomalies but so did much of the rest of the country. If anything, the Upper Midwest and the Northeast saw the greatest positive anomalies over the past year.
2014 was a cool year for much of the country. Especially for us in the Midwest. True, the PNW had positive anomalies, but the greatest positive anomalies were not in the PNW but in California (drought)
How about 2013? California had positive anomalies, but so did the Northeast. More so than the PNW.
2012? Central US/Midwest had the greatest
2011? Texas and the East Coast had the greatest positive anomalies.
2010? The Great Lakes, New England/Northeast had the greatest
See Tom
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Last 12 months the PNW saw positive anomalies but so did much of the rest of the country. If anything, the Upper Midwest and the Northeast saw the greatest positive anomalies over the past year.
2014 was a cool year for much of the country. Especially for us in the Midwest. True, the PNW had positive anomalies, but the greatest positive anomalies were not in the PNW but in California (drought)
How about 2013? California had positive anomalies, but so did the Northeast. More so than the PNW.
2012? Central US/Midwest had the greatest
2011? Texas and the East Coast had the greatest positive anomalies.
2010? The Great Lakes, New England/Northeast had the greatest
See Tom
Look at my post about the last three year means for Philly vs Seattle and then get back to me. Three years is a long time to be that much above average. I just want to know when it will change. And I'm obsessed about it cause our cold winters are due to their well above avg winters. No one will convince me otherwise.
Last 12 months the PNW saw positive anomalies but so did much of the rest of the country. If anything, the Upper Midwest and the Northeast saw the greatest positive anomalies over the past year.
2014 was a cool year for much of the country. Especially for us in the Midwest. True, the PNW had positive anomalies, but the greatest positive anomalies were not in the PNW but in California (drought)
How about 2013? California had positive anomalies, but so did the Northeast. More so than the PNW.
2012? Central US/Midwest had the greatest
2011? Texas and the East Coast had the greatest positive anomalies.
2010? The Great Lakes, New England/Northeast had the greatest
Look at my post about the last three year means for Philly vs Seattle and then get back to me. Three years is a long time to be that much above average. I just want to know when it will change. And I'm obsessed about it cause our cold winters are due to their well above avg winters. No one will convince me otherwise.
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Originally Posted by tom77falcons
Well here is an interesting statistic.
Philadelphia annual mean 2013-2015 = 56.4F vs 1981-2010 mean of 55.8F.
Seattle annul mean 2013-2015 = 54.8F vs 1981-2010 mean of 52.4F.
Our mean went up .6F, and Seattle went up 2.4F.
So, yeah I'm waiting to see when they finally take a hit. Either they have some cold years coming, or their averages are going to shoot up.
Don't get it.
Philadelphia annual mean 1999-2002 = 56.4F vs 1981-2010 mean of 55.8F.
Seattle annual mean 1999-2002 = 51.45F vs 1981-2010 mean of 52.4F.
Philly's mean was up .6F, and Seattle's was down 1.0F.
Don't get why you are picking a small window in a big house of averages.
Philadelphia annual mean 1999-2002 = 56.4F vs 1981-2010 mean of 55.8F.
Seattle annual mean 1999-2002 = 51.45F vs 1981-2010 mean of 52.4F.
Philly's mean was up .6F, and Seattle's was down 1.0F.
Don't get why you are picking a small window in a big house of averages.
Because the last three years there have been dramatically warmer. It is supposed to be a far more stable climate than the east, so how can they have such dramatically warmer temps for three years now? And those last three years in Philly were saved by 2013, otherwise would have been cooler.
PNW is supposed to be in the middle of a long term cold PDO, not this strong warm PDO. I keep hoping for this flip to cold PDO, but it looks no where in sight.
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