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Old 05-27-2016, 07:16 AM
 
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Old 05-27-2016, 09:04 AM
 
Location: Near the Coast SWCT
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To see a pattern coming we look to the Pacific.. Read on.


From Paulie P's blog today...


So basically next week there is a trough in northern Pacific which will give the Western U.S a Ridge but because its summer the trough East of there isn't as wide so it stays in central U.S while the Southeast ridge is allowed to pop north. hence the Warm weather continuing next week for us. Pacific controls the pattern.







And Here is the rest.. After next week that trough in the North Pacific not only weakens but it shifts East which means the Ridge is over the Rockies now and a trough is allowed to dig into Eastern U.S so no hot pattern for the East..

Pacific controls the overall pattern.


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Here is the European weeklies for the next couple of weeks, upper heights and temperature departures. You can see how the influence of the strengthen and look of the upper trough in the northern Pacific results in a stronger ridge near the West coast next week where the higher departures above normal will be located. Also, disturbances will dive north to south across the Plains and Midwest carving out an upper trough. The East still is not that cool but may trend that way late in the period


Then you look at the upper height field the following week and the upper trough south of the Gulf of Alaska is not as strong and more west to east on the lower heights which forces the ridge axis farther east over the northern Rockies and High Plains. This, along with a more negative NAO, should shift the mean trough position farther east thus the cooling in week two of June.


I do not like the look of the weeklies thereafter. I still feel that more troughs will approach the West Coast later in June, and a stronger upper-level ridge will develop in the northern Plains, Upper Midwest and Great Lakes leading to a significant heat wave mid-June. However, the European is now showing this idea.

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Old 05-27-2016, 09:27 AM
 
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Euro showing more normal temps for my region during the forecast period. Blues further south and into Texas?


Also from the CPC 8-14 day analogs. Look different than the Euro, with below average out east, but still average over me

https://twitter.com/jacobmeisel/stat...97054066745344
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Old 05-27-2016, 09:51 AM
 
Location: Mid Atlantic USA
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Euro showing more normal temps for my region during the forecast period. Blues further south and into Texas?


Also from the CPC 8-14 day analogs. Look different than the Euro, with below average out east, but still average over me

https://twitter.com/jacobmeisel/stat...97054066745344

Well the CPC shows you as average which I'm sure you are not happy with. It is obvious that the summer pattern is setting up and it is hot in the West and cooler in the East. It just seems so evident at this point.

A hot summer in the East or Midwest will require a major pattern change. Ridges keep setting up over the PNW just like the last few summers. JB specifically said this year would be the end of those last few years of cooler summers. Again, I wonder how he will wiggle out of this one.
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Old 05-27-2016, 10:11 AM
 
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A hot summer in the East or Midwest will require a major pattern change. Ridges keep setting up over the PNW just like the last few summers.
This.

We can all look at 1 specific location and say hey, look, Im normal with that map, but step back and look at the overall pattern. That CPC analog screams no torching heat east of Rockies, For that period, but there needs to be less of "those periods" for it not to be a normal or below normal summer.

On the other hand.. just like whats happening now..

An entire month was below normal and Top 15 coldest and with just 4 days of heat May will look normal on paper.

So its hard to show on paper what pattern happened when just a few days ruins it.
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Old 05-27-2016, 10:16 AM
 
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Well the CPC shows you as average which I'm sure you are not happy with.
I'll take average summer month over below average any day.

Though, I bet I will be above average this June.


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It is obvious that the summer pattern is setting up and it is hot in the West and cooler in the East. It just seems so evident at this point.

A hot summer in the East or Midwest will require a major pattern change. Ridges keep setting up over the PNW just like the last few summers. JB specifically said this year would be the end of those last few years of cooler summers. Again, I wonder how he will wiggle out of this one.

We shall see. A few days of coolish weather in early June isn't an indication of a cool summer. If Paulie from accuweather is right, and years such as 1947 (where June was record cool, and August record hot) are analogs, then anything can happen.
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Old 05-27-2016, 12:40 PM
 
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Old 05-27-2016, 12:46 PM
 
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Long dry spell coming for the fist half of June? Ironically trough at the end of the first week of June might send us into a dry pattern (La Nina?).

https://twitter.com/WXRISKCOM/status/736264996397666304



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Old 05-27-2016, 01:59 PM
 
Location: Near the Coast SWCT
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Summer starts off with a chilly bang for those areas

https://twitter.com/Met_mdclark/stat...85266437152773
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Old 05-27-2016, 02:00 PM
 
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Looks like nyc would be above averase but that's a monster trough
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