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Old 01-02-2016, 06:11 PM
 
Location: Broward County, FL
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Looking at Goteborg's longterm average.- I don't see that a sea level coastal location can be considered oceanic, with a 19C annual range,. It's a humid continental climate.
19 C annual range is really low for that latitude though.
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Old 01-02-2016, 06:17 PM
 
Location: Top of the South, NZ
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19 C annual range is really low for that latitude though.
Sea level climates don't have 19C ranges, unless they have a continental influence.
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Old 01-02-2016, 06:23 PM
 
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Sea level climates don't have 19C ranges, unless they have a continental influence.
Gothenburg has overwhelmingly more oceanic influence than continental though. Just because a climate has continental influences doesn't mean it's continental - in that case, Orlando is continental as well.
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Old 01-02-2016, 06:28 PM
 
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Gothenburg has overwhelmingly more oceanic influence than continental though. Just because a climate has continental influences doesn't mean it's continental - in that case, Orlando is continental as well.
That's right, Orlando gets it's range due to it's continental influence. If it was out to sea, then the range would be much lower.

An Oceanic climate will never get 19C range at sea level, because one or other of the seasons, isn't showing moderation- Oceanic climates are moderated, in all seasons.
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Old 01-02-2016, 06:32 PM
 
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That's right, Orlando gets it's range due to it's continental influence. If it was out to sea, then the range would be much lower.

An Oceanic climate will never get 19C range at sea level, because one or other of the seasons, isn't showing moderation- Oceanic climates are moderated, in all seasons.
I suppose summer is not very moderated there, but winter is, almost extremely so. There's no denying that there's a big oceanic influence in Gothenburg.
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Old 01-02-2016, 06:40 PM
 
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I suppose summer is not very moderated there, but winter is, almost extremely so. There's no denying that there's a big oceanic influence in Gothenburg.
Not to the point of calling it Oceanic. It has a warmer summer than places in Siberia and Alberta, at the same latitude. Oceanic can't explain that.

If it's not moderated year round, it's not Oceanic.
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Old 01-02-2016, 06:55 PM
 
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Not to the point of calling it Oceanic. It has a warmer summer than places in Siberia and Alberta, at the same latitude. Oceanic can't explain that.

If it's not moderated year round, it's not Oceanic.
What are you talking about, summers in Siberia are way hotter than Gothenburg https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gothenburg

Here are some examples
Novosibirsk https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Novosibirsk
Yakutsk https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yakutsk
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Old 01-02-2016, 07:04 PM
 
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What are you talking about, summers in Siberia are way hotter than Gothenburg https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gothenburg

Here are some examples
Novosibirsk https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Novosibirsk
Yakutsk https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yakutsk
Both are warmer by only 0.5C in the warmest month.

Both have cooler summers than Gothenburg.

Gothenburg is also warmer than many places at it's latitude.

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Old 01-02-2016, 08:08 PM
 
Location: C: Home R: Monroe CT, Climate:Dfa
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Not to the point of calling it Oceanic. It has a warmer summer than places in Siberia and Alberta, at the same latitude. Oceanic can't explain that.

If it's not moderated year round, it's not Oceanic.
Average temp of 0°C+ in its coldest month? Y
Average temp of less than 22°C inits warmest month? Y
Guess what climate type Gothenburg is?
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Oceanic
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Old 01-02-2016, 09:37 PM
 
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Average temp of 0°C+ in its coldest month? Y
Average temp of less than 22°C inits warmest month? Y
Guess what climate type Gothenburg is?
Spoiler
Oceanic
Rigid parameters are for those unwilling to apply reasoning.

It has a warmer summer than areas that are Continental, and at the same latitude. Therefore it no longer has a moderated climate in all seasons, and moderation in all seasons, is the cornerstone of any Oceanic climate.

It has a 19C range, which is higher than any Cfb climate, particularly significant, given that Gotheburg is coastal.

It's two coldest months are 0.1C and 0.3C - relatively mild, but given it's non moderated summers, it's logical to place Gothenburg as Dfb -humid continental.
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