Palm Trees General Discussion (Boston, Philadelphia, isotherm, direction)
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Virtually all the palms that are in coastal South Carolina can be easily grown in the places like Scilly Isles and Eureka, CA those places certainly aren't subtropical.
The palms in the photos, have a robustness and vitality that can only come from hot summers though
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It amazes me that some people think that coastal South Carolina is not a subtropical climate, when these pictures you posted above clearly show that it is. I think some folks don't really understand the differences between tropical and subtropical.
and it amazes me that some people think a continental climate must be cold or have a cold season when in fact what makes a climate continental is how much temperature variation there is between seasons. a variation of 30°F/17°C or more between the coolest and warmest months while maintaining decent precipitation and humidity is a good indicator that the climate has strong continental influence. variation of around 20°F/11°C in the Eastern US doesn't start to happen until around Central Florida and southward.
Last edited by Sir Goosenseresworthie; 03-06-2016 at 01:15 PM..
Yup. Some people cannot comprehend that unfortunately.
I saw huge date palms in Arcata CA while bundled up against the cold in Sept there. It never gets freezing there or very warm. But Sept felt very cold to me. Wonder what the limit north on the west coast is for growing big cidp?
I saw huge date palms in Arcata CA while bundled up against the cold in Sept there. It never gets freezing there or very warm. But Sept felt very cold to me. Wonder what the limit north on the west coast is for growing big cidp?
I think it's not much further north than Eureka just over the CA/OR border in Gold Beach, OR
I think it's not much further north than Eureka just over the CA/OR border in Gold Beach, OR
limiting factor is probably the record lows. i've heard of some CIDP in Cork, Ireland that are old and quite tall.
(i know at least one that is 50 ft. tall and 50 years old)
Cork has almost identical average temperatures to Astoria, OR. the difference being record lows.
i imagine a place like Gold Beach, OR would be near the northern reach of CIDP in the Pacific Northwest due to minimum temperatures. though i wouldn't rule out the possibility of some living a full life in the best UHI that Seattle and Vancouver have to offer.
Last edited by Sir Goosenseresworthie; 03-06-2016 at 03:08 PM..
and it amazes me that some people think a continental climate must be cold or have a cold season when in fact what makes a climate continental is how much temperature variation there is between seasons. a variation of 30°F/17°C or more between the coolest and warmest months while maintaining decent precipitation and humidity is a good indicator that the climate has strong continental influence. variation of around 20°F/11°C in the Eastern US doesn't start to happen until around Central Florida and southward.
So are you saying that only central Florida would be considered subtropical on the east coast?
So are you saying that only central Florida would be considered subtropical on the east coast?
I think he means what I always thought. The Southeast subtropical climates, even right on the coast, are a type of "continental Subtropical" climate. Hence the mild winter averages, but the much hotter summers.
Imagine how much more pleasant it would be there if winter averages stayed what they are now, without temps ever going lower than say 15F below their average lows. And then if summer avg temps were more like the coastal Mid-Atlantic like Atlantic City. Be a much more pleasant climate.
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