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jeez with those numbers, if i were a Royal palm i'd be worried the next winter will be my last lol
pretty sure they were planted already mature, and i seriously doubt they were planted before 1990.
No, they weren't planted as giant mature specimens. Royal palms grow fast, especially with Galveston's (very long) hot and humid summers. And yes, sometime in the 90s, probably after 1996.
Oh, so you think all those years before the warm AMO are not going to be repeated. You really believe those temps will never return? I said this warm period has been in place. Show me pics of Royal Palms in Galveston in the 1960's. Just wait, the 80's and like temps will return. I remember on the news loads and loads of grapefruit and other citrus trees being wiped out in the Rio Grande Valley in the 1980's. What makes you think this warm period is here forever given the record from 1900? Seriously, you have got to be kidding. You can't use a tiny record like that.
OK? There are millions of Washingtonia robusta planted across the northern Gulf. Yes a repeat of 1989 will kill them but for now, they are ubiquitous to the area and will even naturalize. What makes you think one big freeze every fifty years is going to put a dent in the appearance of these places? Very soon after, the plague of the Washingtonia will return. Texas grapefruit is still world famous
Hahahahaha there are so many old CIDPs in Galveston. Exaggeration much? These palms survive the cold, the hurricanes, the floods...they are pretty much bulletproof.
You forgot to mention the warmer side of Galveston - yes that is 13 winters without a temp. below 30F.
And by the way there are royal palms on the island that are like 40-50 ft tall, they were flowering last time I saw them a few weeks ago.
Only 2 years bottoming out in the mid 20s in the last 20 years? Interesting. I wonder if the UHI of Houston is affecting Galveston. NW winds that blow towards Galveston have to go through Houston first.
The Georgia coast seems to have gotten hit with colder air this past couple of winters. SSI was 24 F last winter and 20 F the winter before that. At one point in 2003, they were down in the teens. Even this season with an above average winter, they've still managed to bottom out at 29 F so far.
So, do you really think any Royals would have been left in 1918, 1930, 1940, 1951, 1963, or 1983 or 1989?
Your posts are filled with nonsense and distortions. The few stunted Royals there are on borrowed time 100%. Royals don't like anything below 25F. Galveston can not grow Royals long term. It probably can't even grow what places much further from the equator in Australia or Italy or Spain can. Give it up.
For all we know, those temps may be the abnormal temps climate wise, with Galveston (and the rest of the US Southeast) naturally having a warmer, more stable climate in the long-term. We just don't know what is normal or not, but in the meantime, we can see that royal palms are doing quite well on Galveston, and only continue to thrive and thrive. That is a fact as well.
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I didn't even bother listing all the temps that happened in the low 20's. Too numerous to bother listing them. The fact is, there has been a lull in the normal brutally cold temps this far south location can get. When the lull is over, I would bet even CIDP might bite the dust if the weather is wet. CIDP fry totally and defoliate at 14F, even 18F, and then they develop fungus and eventually decline and bite the dust. No wonder there are no CIDP's in Galveston to match the huge thick trunked ones in California, Europe, or Australia. And that is because they have been badly damaged and even killed before.
I really couldn't tell you. We had so much rain on our way to New Orleans and from New Orleans that we could not see anything but the rain. My husband asked the doorman when their dry season was and he told us "This is the dry season." Be sure to take your rain poncho. Umbrellas are no good with the sideways rain and the wind.
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I wonder if the UHI of Houston is affecting Galveston. NW winds that blow towards Galveston have to go through Houston first.
