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Old 01-31-2016, 08:18 AM
 
Location: Fraser Valley, BC
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Not in the summer though when I want it the most.
I want humidity all year round. Winters need to be more humid than summers. I like dark, gloomy, humid, cold, and very snowy winters. So Sapporo has nice winters but the rest of the season mentioned station in E. Asia Our Way to dry in the winter. Although I do like humidity in the summer too.
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Old 01-31-2016, 08:20 AM
 
Location: Fraser Valley, BC
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Not necessarily. Valparaíso, Chile has the same annual mean temperature as Mar del Plata, Argentina (both 14 °C), but Mar del Plata is not only located on the east coast of South America (while Valparaíso is located on the west) but also it is closer to the pole (around 5° closer, which is not a small difference).
I'm talking about the northern hemisphere here. I have no idea how the west to east coast thing works in the Southern Hemisphere
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Old 02-01-2016, 07:34 AM
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I'm talking about the northern hemisphere here. I have no idea how the west to east coast thing works in the Southern Hemisphere
Prevailing airflow is west to east in the midlatitudes of both hemispheres, so it's the same way.
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Old 02-01-2016, 07:49 AM
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That's easy, Mar del Plata doesn't have the same amount of landmass to it's west or southwest as continents in the NH does. Also, the west coast of Chile is influenced by a cold current.
Agreed, though the Andes must cut off any Pacific Ocean influence, Esquel has much colder winters and records (average winter low isn't much warmer than New York City) than Puerto Montt on the other side of the Andes

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Esquel#Climate

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Puerto_Montt#Climate

Summers don't get any warmer, part of it must be altitude but 1800 feet isn't high. Looks like eastern Argentina is semi-arid even though it's close to the Atlantic Ocean, Andes prevent storms from the Pacific and moisture doesn't travel eastward. I guess similar to the inland Pacific Northwest & British Columbia but they don't face an ocean to the east so it doesn't seem as strange to me. Eastern North America at similar latitudes is much wetter, clashing airmasses produces a stronger strong track? Outside of west coast climates with mountains, eastern North America is one of the wettest spots for its latitude.

Going by a hypothetical continent map, eastern Argentina should be an oceanic climate as the continent narrows. But they hypothetical climate map assumes no mountains:

Hypothetical Continent Climate Map, Dr. M. H. Hill, Jacksonville State University, Jacksonville, AL
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Old 02-01-2016, 08:58 AM
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All that matters are where the prevailing winds are coming from, water or land. The climate of Vancouver is almost the same as Paris or London
Weatherspark (not the most accurate I know) says that Vancouver is dominated by easterly winds; that can't be right? London and Paris have SW winds.
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Old 02-01-2016, 09:07 AM
 
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I think climate change might have something to do with the west coast being warmer for its latitude.

Places in the Central Eastern US such as North Carolina are getting snow. North Carolina's climate looks much warmer than the South Coast of British Columbia but the last few years Vancouver has been getting only a little bit of snow. In 2012 the outskirts of Vancouver such as the Fraser Valley got up to 35 cm of snow. With tempetures around -20C but since then the weather has been getting hotter and dryer.
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Old 02-01-2016, 09:08 AM
 
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Agreed, though the Andes must cut off any Pacific Ocean influence, Esquel has much colder winters and records (average winter low isn't much warmer than New York City) than Puerto Montt on the other side of the Andes

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Esquel#Climate

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Puerto_Montt#Climate

Summers don't get any warmer, part of it must be altitude but 1800 feet isn't high. Looks like eastern Argentina is semi-arid even though it's close to the Atlantic Ocean, Andes prevent storms from the Pacific and moisture doesn't travel eastward. I guess similar to the inland Pacific Northwest & British Columbia but they don't face an ocean to the east so it doesn't seem as strange to me. Eastern North America at similar latitudes is much wetter, clashing airmasses produces a stronger strong track? Outside of west coast climates with mountains, eastern North America is one of the wettest spots for its latitude.

Going by a hypothetical continent map, eastern Argentina should be an oceanic climate as the continent narrows. But they hypothetical climate map assumes no mountains:

Hypothetical Continent Climate Map, Dr. M. H. Hill, Jacksonville State University, Jacksonville, AL
Esquel is at a higher latitude.
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Old 02-01-2016, 09:08 AM
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Weatherspark (not the most accurate I know) says that Vancouver is dominated by easterly winds; that can't be right? London and Paris have SW winds.
Checking wunderground history, it appears the airport gets easterly winds often. Maybe that's a local surface quirk? The general flow up above has to be westerly. Stranger still, last month, winds were usually from the east when raining:

Weather History for Vancouver, Canada | Weather Underground

And partly cloudy weather often had a west wind, including the few days that reported no rain whatsoever.
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Old 02-01-2016, 09:10 AM
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Esquel is at a higher latitude.
I assume you mean altitude? Latitude difference is small. I don't think the altitude difference is large enough to cause most of the temperature differences.
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Old 02-01-2016, 09:35 AM
 
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Prevailing airflow is west to east in the midlatitudes of both hemispheres, so it's the same way.

Yeah,South America doesnt have all the Continental Influences of East North America or East Asia,but Being on West of East Coast make diference.

Mar del plata get below freezing many times during winter just because its winter winds comes from Southwest(Patagonia),while in West Coast comes from the Ocean.

Other Example of this is because Melo,Uruguay(32S),have an record low of -11C while Valparaiso at same Latitude in West Coast only -3.6C.
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