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Old 02-06-2016, 10:07 PM
 
Location: Seattle WA, USA
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Is the Great Basin a desert as defined here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Basin_Desert
And according to that wiki article there are only four defined deserts in North America; The Great Basin Desert, Mojave Desert, Sonoran Desert, and Chihuahuan Desert. But the thing is that there are places in WA that are just as dry or even drier than some portions of the Great Basin Desert. For instance Vantage, Wa
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vantag...ington#Climate

Here is a random spot in central Nevada
https://www.google.com/maps/@40.4494...!7i3328!8i1664

And A place near Vantage, WA
https://www.google.com/maps/@46.9501...7i13312!8i6656

Of course those photos could've been taken at different times of the year, altering the look of the landscape.
Here are some examples of some climates from the Great Basin.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winnem...hy_and_climate
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elko,_Nevada#Climate
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Austin,_Nevada#Climate

So is the Great Basin a desert or is it just a stepp land. If it is a desert, than why is eastern WA not considered an official desert?

Great Basin

https://sierratraveler.files.wordpre...ial-3_test.jpg

Eastern WA

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com...d40869d87a.jpg
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Old 02-06-2016, 10:13 PM
 
Location: Arundel, FL
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Yes, the Great Basin is obviously a desert. Eastern WA is not a desert because evapotranspiration is too low, despite the low precipitation. Same reason the South Pole isn't a desert climate, but a ice cap climate.
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Old 02-06-2016, 11:21 PM
 
Location: Seattle WA, USA
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But how is the evapotrapiration lower when Vantage, WA is clearly hotter than places like Austin, NV
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Old 02-07-2016, 12:20 AM
 
Location: Seattle WA, USA
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Also I'm not saying that all of eastern WA should be labeled as a desert just the exceptionally dry areas. Here are some cities with less than 8 in of precipitation, from driest to wettest and their avg annual temp.

Vantage (7.58 in | 52.65 F) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vantag...ington#Climate
Richland (7.6 in | 53.2 F) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richla...ington#Climate
Ephrata (7.69 in | 51.4 F) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ephrat...hy_and_climate
Moses Lake (7.69 in | 51.4F) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moses_...ington#Climate
Soap Lake (7.69 in | 51.4 F) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soap_L...ington#Climate
Kennewick (7.76 in | 54.45 F) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kennew...ington#Climate
Quincy (7.78 in | 50.05 F) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quincy...ington#Climate

Northern Nevada

Tonopah (5.14 in | 52.1 F) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tonopah,_Nevada#Climate
Reno (7.40 in | 53.8 F) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reno,_Nevada#Climate
Winnemucca (8.28 in | 49.2 F) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winnem...hy_and_climate
West Wendover (8.47 in | 45.25 F) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_W...Nevada#Climate
Ely (9.76 in | 44.95 F) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ely,_N...hy_and_climate
Elko (9.89 in |46.595 F) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elko,_Nevada#Climate
Austin (12.31 in | 47.8 F) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Austin,_Nevada#Climate

Obvioulsy some parts of the Great Basin are desert specifically the southern part, but in the north it doesn't seem any more "desert" than eastern WA, maybe the only thing is that their winters are sunnier, but that's about it.

Also there are Sand dunes in eastern WA.

http://www.herrickhomepage.com/Curre...ford%20248.JPG

http://cdn.c.photoshelter.com/img-ge...10HAN-4441.jpg
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Old 02-07-2016, 02:18 PM
 
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Yes, the Great Basin is obviously a desert. Eastern WA is not a desert because evapotranspiration is too low, despite the low precipitation. Same reason the South Pole isn't a desert climate, but a ice cap climate.
I think a few of the driest parts of eastern WA are desert, just not named as such.

Like Albuquerque in New Mexico and the San Luis Valley in CO/NM
Winter temperatures are too cold to be included as being part of the
Chihuahuan Desert.

Arid areas of WA are not connected to the Great Basin but just as dry and warm,
I don't see much, if any, difference in evapotranspirstion rate.
In fact, Northern Nevada is much higher in elevation and has cooler lows.
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Old 02-07-2016, 05:15 PM
 
Location: Seattle WA, USA
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I think a few of the driest parts of eastern WA are desert, just not named as such.

Like Albuquerque in New Mexico and the San Luis Valley in CO/NM
Winter temperatures are too cold to be included as being part of the
Chihuahuan Desert.

Arid areas of WA are not connected to the Great Basin but just as dry and warm,
I don't see much, if any, difference in evapotranspirstion rate.
In fact, Northern Nevada is much higher in elevation and has cooler lows.
Also are grass species supposed to be mostly absent in desert climates, when I think of desserts I think of mostly barren land with a couple bushes and other woody plants. To me grass is a sign of a steppe environment, and grass has a large presence in eastern washington and Northern nevada, it's not very dense, but it's still there.

Eastern WA

http://cdn.c.photoshelter.com/img-ge...10HAN-4311.jpg

Northern Nevada

https://photos.travelblog.org/Photos..._Scenery-0.jpg
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Old 02-07-2016, 10:22 PM
 
Location: Top of the South, NZ
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Nice photos.
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Old 05-21-2016, 08:27 PM
 
Location: Seattle WA, USA
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Just a little Update, previously I stated that Richland, WA receives 7.6 in of precipitation per year but I checked recently and it now says 7.1 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richla...ington#Climate

However there is an even drier city that is even labeled as BWk (cold desert) and that is Sunnyside, WA which receives 6.8 in
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunnys...ington#Climate

This is just outside of Sunnyside and the surrounding farmland.
https://www.google.com/maps/@46.4088...7i13312!8i6656
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Old 08-02-2016, 01:05 PM
 
Location: Seattle WA, USA
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Another Update, I found an even drier and hotter climate in WA at the Hanford Site it receives 6.14 in (156mm) and an annual average high of 66.39F (19.11C)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanford_Site#Climate

and here is a street-view of the area
https://www.google.com/maps/@46.5335...7i13312!8i6656
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Old 08-02-2016, 01:14 PM
 
Location: João Pessoa,Brazil(The easternmost point of Americas)
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This place are similar to Central and Eastern Patagonia,they are just cold dry steppes imo.
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