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Old 03-07-2016, 03:17 PM
 
Location: Mid Atlantic USA
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Bologna actually looks very green in winter. And in general its climate it's not cold at all considering its latitude.
Evergreen trees are common, in particular cedars of Lebanon, southern magnolias, stone pines, loquats and Chusan palm trees.

https://www.google.it/maps/@44.48126...7i13312!8i6656

https://www.google.it/maps/@44.47916...7i13312!8i6656

https://www.google.it/maps/@44.47526...7i13312!8i6656

https://www.google.it/maps/@44.47784...7i13312!8i6656

https://www.google.it/maps/@44.48272...7i13312!8i6656

That is quite amazing given the Jan avg high/low is 5/-1.5C. With an avg low below freezing in January and still that green is something.
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Old 03-07-2016, 03:29 PM
 
Location: Rimini, Emilia-Romagna, Italy (44°0 N)
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That is quite amazing given the Jan avg high/low is 5/-1.5C. With an avg low below freezing in January and still that green is something.
It's still an Italian city after all
More recent averages for January are 0°C/7°C for the period 1991-2015.
Also Bologna is located in hardiness zone 8b (9a in the city centre).
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Old 03-07-2016, 03:39 PM
 
Location: Mid Atlantic USA
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Bologna actually looks very green in winter. And in general its climate it's not cold at all considering its latitude.
Evergreen trees are common, in particular cedars of Lebanon, southern magnolias, stone pines, loquats and Chusan palm trees.

https://www.google.it/maps/@44.48126...7i13312!8i6656

https://www.google.it/maps/@44.47916...7i13312!8i6656

https://www.google.it/maps/@44.47526...7i13312!8i6656

https://www.google.it/maps/@44.47784...7i13312!8i6656

https://www.google.it/maps/@44.48272...7i13312!8i6656

Looks like some other areas of Bologna though are not as evergreen. This streetview is from November.
Still looks more green though than a place like Atlanta or Raleigh or some other inland locales in the southern US at far lower latitudes.

https://goo.gl/maps/RnYZHCgU7wy


What I find telling is that Atlanta may have higher January averages on both the high temp and the low temp vs Bologna, but I think Bologna is far more green in winter. The strong continental nature of Atlanta's climate is the reason in that case.

The very cold winter nights that can happen in Atlanta prevent the real green you see in Bologna. In this case vegetation does tell you something about the climate of Atlanta. On the face of it a Jan avg high/low of 55/35F looks very mild. Maybe I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure Atlanta looks quite dead in winter.
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Old 03-07-2016, 03:40 PM
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Location: Surrey/London
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It's still an Italian city after all
More recent averages for January are 0°C/7°C for the period 1991-2015.
Also Bologna is located in hardiness zone 8b (9a in the city centre).
What is the tree that seems to be planted everywhere in Italy; it's an evergreen tree that looks a bit like a cypress, but the leaves are finer and the plant is very thin compared to a regular cypress?
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Old 03-07-2016, 03:42 PM
 
Location: Paris
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I think the more I know it, the less I like the climate of northern Italy. It's markedly continental for being so far west in Europe, but unfortunately it's much too stable. In summer it's not a problem as its averages are near ideal, but with those mild averages it means a winter can pass without any interesting wintry spell.



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Beautiful!

Where is that?
The first bunch is from Le Thoronet, near Le Luc a couple dozen miles inland from St Tropez as the crow flies. The seaside ones are from Le Rayol, near St Tropez on the coast.
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Old 03-07-2016, 03:56 PM
 
Location: Rimini, Emilia-Romagna, Italy (44°0 N)
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What is the tree that seems to be planted everywhere in Italy; it's an evergreen tree that looks a bit like a cypress, but the leaves are finer and the plant is very thin compared to a regular cypress?
Mmm I don't know...Italian cypresses (cupressus sempervirens) are very common in Italy and have a tall and thin shape compared to other types of cypresses. Other common evergreens are cedar of Atlas and cedar Deodar. You can also find some Norfolk island trees in southern Italy but they aren't common.
I'd like to help you but I can't understand what type of tree do you mean.

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Old 03-07-2016, 04:07 PM
 
Location: Rimini, Emilia-Romagna, Italy (44°0 N)
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I think the more I know it, the less I like the climate of northern Italy. It's markedly continental for being so far west in Europe, but unfortunately it's much too stable. In summer it's not a problem as its averages are near ideal, but with those mild averages it means a winter can pass without any interesting wintry spell.
Exactly. This feature is shared with east Asia (China and Japan), though Italy is much warmer at the same latitude.
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Old 03-07-2016, 04:10 PM
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Location: Surrey/London
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It's the Italian cypress, I just looked it up.

These things


Cedars are common here, mostly cedar of Lebanon but also Atlas cedars.
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Old 03-07-2016, 04:31 PM
 
Location: Mid Atlantic USA
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You can see the difference with Atlanta having a warmer winter average, but looks far less green than Bologna or even London. It was hard to find places in Atlanta with winter month streetviews, so a lot of these are just further along the same street. But I really think it pretty typical of the northside of Atlanta (Buckhead).



https://goo.gl/maps/pFRrr4fzhRC2

https://goo.gl/maps/3icYZSccZiD2

https://goo.gl/maps/eoDUaYvDmgR2

https://goo.gl/maps/R37bScFN5k42


https://goo.gl/maps/8qN2bi3GhkQ2

https://goo.gl/maps/xheLFEZHGuv

https://goo.gl/maps/jwuMQhE2R5u

https://goo.gl/maps/qt6Q8gh6YbH2
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Old 03-07-2016, 04:58 PM
 
Location: Lizard Lick, NC
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Looks like some other areas of Bologna though are not as evergreen. This streetview is from November.
Still looks more green though than a place like Atlanta or Raleigh or some other inland locales in the southern US at far lower latitudes.

https://goo.gl/maps/RnYZHCgU7wy


What I find telling is that Atlanta may have higher January averages on both the high temp and the low temp vs Bologna, but I think Bologna is far more green in winter. The strong continental nature of Atlanta's climate is the reason in that case.

The very cold winter nights that can happen in Atlanta prevent the real green you see in Bologna. In this case vegetation does tell you something about the climate of Atlanta. On the face of it a Jan avg high/low of 55/35F looks very mild. Maybe I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure Atlanta looks quite dead in winter.
why did you choose a pic of bologna in November to compare to January pics of Atlanta. I'm tired of this argument its whatever. Dead alive whatever. I have never felt Raleigh was dead in winter but whatever.
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