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You can stop with the lies now. We've been down this route before. Here's a depiction of my ancestors' response to your people's request that we submit to Islamic rule... you can guess the gist of the letter:
Do I need to bring the Catholic Church up? You were killed if you spoke against it. Jews and Muslims where slaughtered and kicked out of spain, we let the Jews take refuge in our countries.lies? What lies exactly. Explain why Islam is growing so fast now by converts? We haven't taken over any countries and if anything have been taken over by others ourselves. You know how the crusader Christians in the name of Christ slaughtered innocent people? And what's wrong with Arabs taking over rplaces, isn't that how empires work? Romans, Persians, greeks, Chinese, mongols, america, Britain, etc. You realize we never forced people we took over to convert? Yet in America Indians were forced to convert to chrisitianity.
Come on man, let's not be hypocritical. When omar ibn al khattab, the great Muslim leader, took over Jerusalem, he signed a treaty with the Christians letting them live with us, the priest at the church offered omar to pray in the church but omar refused because he knew this was a holy place for Christians and if he prayed there others might claim it for muslims.
Do I need to bring the Catholic Church up? You were killed if you spoke against it. Jews and Muslims where slaughtered and kicked out of spain, we let the Jews take refuge in our countries.lies? What lies exactly. Explain why Islam is growing so fast now by converts? We haven't taken over any countries and if anything have been taken over by others ourselves. You know how the crusader Christians in the name of Christ slaughtered innocent people? And what's wrong with Arabs taking over rplaces, isn't that how empires work? Romans, Persians, greeks, Chinese, mongols, america, Britain, etc. You realize we never forced people we took over to convert? Yet in America Indians were forced to convert to chrisitianity.
Come on man, let's not be hypocritical. When omar ibn al khattab, the great Muslim leader, took over Jerusalem, he signed a treaty with the Christians letting them live with us, the priest at the church offered omar to pray in the church but omar refused because he knew this was a holy place for Christians and if he prayed there others might claim it for muslims.
I think snj90 is a bellend of epic proportions, but you need to give it a rest. I don't think anyone cares. All religion is equally ridiculous - Islam is no exception.
Religion as a whole is stupid. Anybody who believes a make believe man in the sky created us isn't thinking very rationally
Christians are sometimes the worst people, I find. Always making it out as if they are the religion of peace and loving - yeah right, a quick read of the bible puts that theory to bed pretty quickly.
I do know some great people from all religions, though. I have some great muslim friends, some christian, and sikh too. The problem is the religion, not the people. Some people can be religious, yet not too much so that it dictates their everyday life - these are the good people.
There are others though, that put way too much into it and devote their lives to it, telling other people what to follow, what they can and can't do, trying to make others convert or feel guilty for being atheists - these are the very worst of all people.
Do I need to bring the Catholic Church up? You were killed if you spoke against it.
I'm the last one to defend that Middle Eastern religion. Although I do prefer Orthodoxy over Catholicism. But still, the Old Ways were better.
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You realize we never forced people we took over to convert?
Hah!
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Yet in America Indians were forced to convert to chrisitianity.
More than that, really. I wouldn't bring the Indians in as any kind of counterexample. In all honesty, who wants to end up like them? Though they at least have their reservations. Not all conquered people have something similar.
Well my budget is £3,000 this year and it isn't going very far.
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