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Old 03-24-2016, 05:41 AM
 
Location: Bologna, Italy
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Nobody is. NYC has all means above freezing solely because of the massive UHI. Go towards you in Stamford CT and it has two months below freezing and 100 freezes a year.

If Köppen would make his classification today, the treshold for subtropical would probably be 5C means in the coldest month.
5c as the coldest month seems fine to me as a limit between continental and oceanic / mediterranean / subtropical, so it will prevent cities like Vienna, Zagreb or Prague to be labeled as oceanic but someone will say NYC is not Winnipeg. Can we create a "super continental" classification for places with winters below .-10c or -15c and still warm summers above 18-20c ?
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Old 03-24-2016, 06:03 AM
 
Location: United Nations
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Are you joking, right? So, Shanghai is continental, by your definition?
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Old 03-24-2016, 06:17 AM
 
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Are you joking, right? So, Shanghai is continental, by your definition?
It's a dumb poster. No point in even arguing with it.
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Old 03-24-2016, 06:38 AM
 
Location: Bologna, Italy
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It's a dumb poster. No point in even arguing with it.
uh, what ?

Shanghai is a special case, but that just goes out to prove that the classic Cfa / Dfa threshold is too broad of a definition.
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Old 03-24-2016, 07:57 AM
 
Location: In transition
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Really now?

54S https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ushuaia#Climate
55N https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copenhagen#Climate

52S https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Campbe...ealand#Climate
52N https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utrecht#Climate

Below this latitude in the south it's tundra, the Drake Passage, the furious fifties and the screaming sixties. At my latitude in the southern hemisphere there's a polar climate.

Why southern hemisphere appear to be "superior" is that there's hardly any landmass below the 40th parallel. Or well, there is - the Antarctic.



Eh? Omyakon is on the 63rd parallel north. Maquinchao is at the latitude of Rome.
Well it's superior to me because I hate continental climates. I'd take Ushuaia over Moscow any day.
I'd also take Maquinchao over Chicago any day. Far superior climate IMO.
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Old 03-24-2016, 08:00 AM
 
Location: João Pessoa,Brazil(The easternmost point of Americas)
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The image below compares a "low" Maquinchao (80 meters compared to the actual 880), Viedma, which is a coastal city at the same latitude, and other two cities at similar latitudes. As you can see, there's nothing continental about Maquinchao.
This Record low for Maquinchao is Wrong,the 1960-1990 record was -25.6C,but in 17/07/1991 the town went down to -30s,its because Maquinchao dont have Moderation since its in the Center of Patagonia and in a very dry place,who means it can be very hot or very cold.
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Old 03-24-2016, 08:22 AM
 
Location: Finland
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Are you joking, right? So, Shanghai is continental, by your definition?
Shanghai is subtropical. 4.8C = 5C. And Shanghai is a special case, as both other winter months are way above 5C, and all 12 months have lows above freezing.

If I would make a climate classification I wouldn't set treshold temperatures in stone anyway. The overall features of the climates matter. If it's not about law, I don't like very strict and undebatable definitions at all.
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