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Old 04-17-2016, 09:01 PM
 
Location: Seattle WA, USA
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Some more you forgot

Ussuriysk, Russia 158,004 inhabitants (lowest daily mean -17.4C) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ussuriysk

Yanbian Prefecture, China 2,271,600 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yanbia...ous_Prefecture
no climate stats, but if you click on some of the cities, they clearly fit your criteria


Hyesan, N korea 192,680 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyesan

Also It seems that you are more interested in knowing the population of people living, so since large parts of russia fit your threshold, and instead of trying to find every city and possibly missing some, as well as the thousands of tiny towns and villages, maybe it would be best to count an entire federal subject, at least those that you feel comfortably that the entire subject fits your threshold.

Tyumen Oblast 3,395,755 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tyumen_Oblast

Krasnoyarsk Krai 2,828,187 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Krasnoyarsk_Krai

Kemerovo Oblast 2,763,135 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kemerovo_Oblast

Novosibirsk Oblast 2,665,911 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Novosibirsk_Oblast

Irkutsk Oblast 2,428,750 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irkutsk_Oblast

Altai Krai 2,419,755 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Altai_Krai

Omsk Oblast 1,977,665 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omsk_Oblast

Khanty-Mansi Autonomous Okrug 1,532,243 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khanty...tonomous_Okrug

Khabarovsk Krai 1,343,869 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khabarovsk_Krai

Zabaykalsky Krai 1,107,107 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zabaykalsky_Krai

Tomsk Oblast 1,047,394 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tomsk_Oblast

Republic of Buryatia 972,021 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buryatia

Sakha Republic 958,528 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sakha_Republic

Kurgan Oblast 910,807 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kurgan_Oblast

Amur Oblast 830,103 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amur_Oblast

Republic of Khakassia 532,403 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khakassia

Yamalo-Nenets Autonomous Okrug 522,904 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yamalo...tonomous_Okrug

Tuva Republic 307,930 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuva

Altai Republic 206,168 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Altai_Republic

Jewish Autonomous Oblast 176,558 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_Autonomous_Oblast

Magadan Oblast 156,996 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magadan_Oblast

Nenets Autonomous Okrug 42,090 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nenets_Autonomous_Okrug

total 29,126,279

Mostly fits your criteria

Sverdlovsk Oblast 4,297,747 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sverdlovsk_Oblast

Chelyabinsk Oblast 3,476,217 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chelyabinsk_Oblast

new total 36,900,243

This is where I got it from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federa...ects_of_Russia

you can do the same for

kazakhstan https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regions_of_Kazakhstan

mongolia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Provinces_of_Mongolia

China https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...ublic_of_China

Canada https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Provin...ries_of_Canada

Alaska https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...reas_in_Alaska

North dakota https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...n_North_Dakota

British Columbia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...itish_Columbia

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Old 04-18-2016, 12:24 AM
 
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Some more you forgot

Ussuriysk, Russia 158,004 inhabitants (lowest daily mean -17.4C) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ussuriysk

Yanbian Prefecture, China 2,271,600 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yanbia...ous_Prefecture
no climate stats, but if you click on some of the cities, they clearly fit your criteria


Hyesan, N korea 192,680 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyesan

Also It seems that you are more interested in knowing the population of people living, so since large parts of russia fit your threshold, and instead of trying to find every city and possibly missing some, as well as the thousands of tiny towns and villages, maybe it would be best to count an entire federal subject, at least those that you feel comfortably that the entire subject fits your threshold.

Tyumen Oblast 3,395,755 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tyumen_Oblast

Krasnoyarsk Krai 2,828,187 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Krasnoyarsk_Krai

Kemerovo Oblast 2,763,135 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kemerovo_Oblast

Novosibirsk Oblast 2,665,911 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Novosibirsk_Oblast

Irkutsk Oblast 2,428,750 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irkutsk_Oblast

Altai Krai 2,419,755 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Altai_Krai

Omsk Oblast 1,977,665 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omsk_Oblast

Khanty-Mansi Autonomous Okrug 1,532,243 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khanty...tonomous_Okrug

Khabarovsk Krai 1,343,869 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khabarovsk_Krai

Zabaykalsky Krai 1,107,107 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zabaykalsky_Krai

Tomsk Oblast 1,047,394 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tomsk_Oblast

Republic of Buryatia 972,021 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buryatia

Sakha Republic 958,528 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sakha_Republic

Kurgan Oblast 910,807 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kurgan_Oblast

Amur Oblast 830,103 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amur_Oblast

Republic of Khakassia 532,403 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khakassia

Yamalo-Nenets Autonomous Okrug 522,904 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yamalo...tonomous_Okrug

Tuva Republic 307,930 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuva

Altai Republic 206,168 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Altai_Republic

Jewish Autonomous Oblast 176,558 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_Autonomous_Oblast

Magadan Oblast 156,996 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magadan_Oblast

Nenets Autonomous Okrug 42,090 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nenets_Autonomous_Okrug

total 29,126,279

Mostly fits your criteria

Sverdlovsk Oblast 4,297,747 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sverdlovsk_Oblast

Chelyabinsk Oblast 3,476,217 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chelyabinsk_Oblast

new total 36,900,243

This is where I got it from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federa...ects_of_Russia

you can do the same for

kazakhstan https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regions_of_Kazakhstan

mongolia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Provinces_of_Mongolia

China https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...ublic_of_China

Canada https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Provin...ries_of_Canada

Alaska https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...reas_in_Alaska

North dakota https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...n_North_Dakota

British Columbia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...itish_Columbia
That's what I usually do at the end: for example, I once approximated the minimum number of people who live in summer average highs below 26.6 °C, not by summing city by city, but summing larger parts. This time I wanted to see the 100 largest cities, but when I have some time I'll add those larger parts to actually see how many people live in such cold winter climates.

I'm not sure if Sverdlovsk Oblast' fits the criteria, and the western part of Chelyabinsk Oblast' looks warmer during the winter (of course, the more west you go, the warmer it becomes, so it makes sense), but the other ones do.

72,000,000 live just in the 100 largest cities, I think the whole population may even surpass 80,000,000
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Old 04-18-2016, 03:40 AM
 
Location: Melbourne, Australia
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Чё?
sorry lol

Out of the cities you listed, I'd probably choose to live in karamay because of the warmth, they all look horrible though :/
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Old 04-18-2016, 03:53 AM
 
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sorry lol

Out of the cities you listed, I'd probably choose to live in karamay because of the warmth, they all look horrible though :/
Yes, -18 °C as average lows feels horrible, but the winter urban visual impression looks really nice, plus you definitely get 4 seasons at the lower latitudes (like Winnipeg, Grand Forks, Novosibirsk and Harbin).

These places get a wide range of temperatures, usually peaking from -32 °C in the winter to +32 °C in the summer, so, it feels more "open" (it's a concept in my mind, I don't know if you share it) than places like London, Edinburgh, Vancouver, Sydney, Cape Town, Buenos Aires, and all those places where temperature ranges are very narrow, which feel more "closed" to me. I prefer Cfb or Cfc climates (London, Wellington, Reykjavik, Ushuaia...) because they rarely get uncomfortable temperatures for me, but I wouldn't say those climates are "exciting" or "4 seasons", like the one I listed.
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Old 04-18-2016, 03:53 AM
 
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Karamay or Kelamayi is a prefecture-level city in the north of the Xinjiang Uygur Autonomous Region, People's Republic of China. The name of the city comes from the Uyghur language, and means "black oil", referring to the oil fields near the city.



I'm not moving there!
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Old 04-18-2016, 04:02 AM
 
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Karamay or Kelamayi is a prefecture-level city in the north of the Xinjiang Uygur Autonomous Region, People's Republic of China. The name of the city comes from the Uyghur language, and means "black oil", referring to the oil fields near the city.



I'm not moving there!
The second hottest summers belong to Tongliao, if I didn't miss something.
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Old 04-18-2016, 04:09 AM
 
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The second hottest summers belong to Tongliao, if I didn't miss something.
It's better. Not as steamy in summer and 'wetter' too.
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Old 04-19-2016, 07:25 AM
 
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A few places with average low between -17.7 °C and -17.9 °C in the coldest month.

Quebec City, Canada: 806,400
Syktyvkar, Russia: 235,006
Fargo, North Dakota, USA: 233,836
Greater Sudbury, Canada: 160,770

Another city I didn't think it had sub -18 °C lows in January

St. Cloud, Minnesota, USA: 191,306
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Old 04-20-2016, 02:29 PM
 
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I've looked up at the January average lows from 2010 to now and it looks like North American cities have been warmer than the 30 years average, up to 2 degrees Celsius. The cities with more than 100,000 and average lows lower than -20 °C in Canada are (not counting the metro areas):

Winnipeg: 663,617
Saskatoon: 222,189
Regina: 193,100
Saguenay: 144,300
Thunder Bay: 108,359
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Old 04-21-2016, 11:44 AM
 
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lol, interesting example for an alternative.


Anyways, many of the top cities have terrible pollution problems. The issue about a huge city getting well-below-freezing temps is that human activity and coal-powered heating generate a lot of air pollutants, and on top of that the air molecules don't have as much kinetic energy to disperse these aerosols quickly, so they just sit there and accumulate.

Ultimately I do want to move to a cold-weather city (like Duluth or Winnipeg or Grand Forks or Fargo), but living in a huge ass 10 million-person metro area like Harbin would be a pain in the ass, plus the UHI would probably prevent extreme cold like -40C which is also a big negative.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013_N...ern_China_smog
Uhhh, good luck getting -40C here anymore.

Last cold day I can think of was in Feb 2007. Airport reached -42C which is on outskirts while downtown was only -33C.

Daily Data Report for February 2007

Daily Data Report for February 2007


Our record low of -48C was recorded about 4 km away from downtown
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