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Old 05-06-2016, 09:48 AM
 
Location: Finland
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Goes to show you how different the qualifications are for "hot" summers is..... No forumer from the Midwest/Northeast should be considered having a hot summer. We have warm summers.If anything we are all the "cut off". Hot is reserved for the South/Southwest US/ Med/Middle East/Brazil/ South Asia.....
I was thinking Köppen here. (22C) mean in the hottest month. That is "hot summer", while Turku is "warm summer humid continental".

 
Old 05-06-2016, 10:06 AM
 
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Your summers are definitely hot by the standards of many if not most people on this forum.
Possibly, but the majority of the US land mass (excluding the Mountainous West) is considerably warmer than the Midwest/Northeast during the summer. If we had more forumers from the South and Southwest, they would like think our summers are usually rather tame.




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I was thinking Köppen here. (22C) mean in the hottest month. That is "hot summer", while Turku is "warm summer humid continental".
Good point, but 22C in July/Aug isn't really hot when I look at much of the country (US). So I hope you understand where I'm coming from.
 
Old 05-06-2016, 10:07 AM
 
Location: York
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10c and 22c are the same departure from average.

What about all the entire threads of childish and petty comments about London having the worst climate on earth, and how people could possibly live here as the sun is never visible and it rains or is foggy 400 days per year.

And now you've deleted the comment I was replying to?
I deleted it because I can't be bothered arguing.

Who actually says those things though? The fact is, summer in London IS cloudy and IS cool. No matter how much you want to make it sound like it's warm and sunny, it just isn't.
You can cry all you want about it, and defend the place until you're blue in the face(and I'm sure you will), but it won't change people's perceptions, or indeed the facts about the weather there.
 
Old 05-06-2016, 11:20 AM
 
Location: Finland
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Good point, but 22C in July/Aug isn't really hot when I look at much of the country (US). So I hope you understand where I'm coming from.
Of course I understand. And most of us posting here are much cooler than that (Turku's avg July mean is 17.5C, Helsinki's 17.7C). I'm not sure, but I think Lyon is the northernmost location where this 22C summer mean is the average. The northernmost with a mean of 24C is probably Fiume, Croatia.

But Never Forget July 2010. Averaged mean temps with the Pick's theorem on 10x10 averaged on 50x50 km measurements:




Somewhere in Canada might have reached the same mean temps, but in the Eastern Hem this is the highest mean ever recorded at this latitude.
 
Old 05-06-2016, 11:23 AM
 
Location: Finland
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The fact is, summer in London IS cloudy and IS cool.
Since 1981 these are Turku's sunniest months:



Sunshine doesn't always make up for a nice month....
 
Old 05-06-2016, 11:53 AM
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Location: Surrey/London
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21c coming up to 7pm, high was 23c.
 
Old 05-06-2016, 12:25 PM
 
Location: Leeds, UK
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I deleted it because I can't be bothered arguing.

Who actually says those things though? The fact is, summer in London IS cloudy and IS cool. No matter how much you want to make it sound like it's warm and sunny, it just isn't.
You can cry all you want about it, and defend the place until you're blue in the face(and I'm sure you will), but it won't change people's perceptions, or indeed the facts about the weather there.
As you said yourself, it is entirely dependent on what you're used to. Making definitive statements like 'London IS cloudy and IS cool' is complete crap and you know it. I could say 'Chicago summers ARE hot and VERY sunny' but I have no doubt chicagogeorge would disagree strongly with that, even though to me they absolutely are.

We all know you hate the summers in England Dean - so why you continue to live here I will never know.
 
Old 05-06-2016, 12:44 PM
 
Location: Trondheim, Norway - 63 N
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Of course I understand. And most of us posting here are much cooler than that (Turku's avg July mean is 17.5C, Helsinki's 17.7C). I'm not sure, but I think Lyon is the northernmost location where this 22C summer mean is the average. The northernmost with a mean of 24C is probably Fiume, Croatia.

But Never Forget July 2010. Averaged mean temps with the Pick's theorem on 10x10 averaged on 50x50 km measurements:

Somewhere in Canada might have reached the same mean temps, but in the Eastern Hem this is the highest mean ever recorded at this latitude.
Very impressive means indeed.

Warmest in monthly 24-hr mean in Norway is 22.7°C in Oslo, back in July 1901.

Warmest 24-hr mean in my region is 20°C in July 2014 at Mære (Steinkjer) at the northern head of Trondheimsfjord, 63 56°N. That mathces well the 20C in the map over Finland.

North of the Arctic Circle in Norway: Mean of 19.5°C in July 2014 in Pasvik valley in Finnmark - 69 05°N

Laksfors at 65 37°N had 8 days above 30°C in July 2014. What a month that was.

Wonder if somewhere in Russia can match these means /latitudes? Or are nights / lows too cold?
 
Old 05-06-2016, 12:46 PM
 
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17.5c, mostly clear at 21:00.

High 21.7c, low 4.8c.
 
Old 05-06-2016, 12:52 PM
 
Location: Finland
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As you said yourself, it is entirely dependent on what you're used to. Making definitive statements like 'London IS cloudy and IS cool' is complete crap and you know it. I could say 'Chicago summers ARE hot and VERY sunny' but I have no doubt chicagogeorge would disagree strongly with that, even though to me they absolutely are.

We all know you hate the summers in England Dean - so why you continue to live here I will never know.
London's summers ARE CLOUDY AND COOL, and Turku's ARE TOO. Sure they are summers compared to the winters, but for example last year when 4 of the 6 high sun months were below average here it was cool. Actually May-July was the coolest since 1961.

That our summers would be unbearable or exceptionally cool is false like you said. The summers in the Hebrides, Orkneys, Faroes, Iceland and NI are the worst of the worst and t-shirt weather is maybe twice a year.
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