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View Poll Results: Which has a better collection of climates?
The U.K. 44 35.77%
The U.S. South 79 64.23%
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Old 04-11-2020, 04:43 PM
 
Location: Putnam County, TN
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It can be quite gloomy in winter, but not all the time. A lot of the gloom stereotypes come from days when there was bad pollution due to coal burning etc.. The stereotype may have a grain of truth even today, but I'm not sure why people so often associate that with low visibility type conditions, visibility is usually very good here in winter. The way some people talk about the British climate in winter you'd think you could barely see more than 100 yards infront of you!

As someone who actually lives here, I'd say it's the short daylengths and low sun angle that contribute most to the feel of it ever being "darker" in winter, because it literally IS dark rfom about 8:30 to 4:00 here in Northern England. Southern England (lived there for 12 years) was rather brighter. Anyway, we get to compensate in summer with very nice long days and sunsets at 10:00 and beyond, with comfortable temperatures. So I'm not bothered.
I don't associate gloom with low visibility distance. I associate gloom with low LIGHT LEVELS, as in how bright/dark it is.

Also, that is true about the summer days being long. However, sun angle would be lower in all seasons, and UV index by extension. Not to mention I prefer less difference between seasons in some ways anyways, especially daylight. And don't forget, as I live near Nashville (in the subtropics) and even consider our winters to be almost grey, I would basically consider pretty much anywhere even a few degrees further north than here to be grey, unless it was only about 5 degrees further north and had a very high percent possible sunshine (which would make it continental and thus nasty).

I think we will have to agree to disagree. You prefer the mid-latitude U.K., I prefer the low-latitude U.S. Sun Belt, and it's fine to have your own opinions as long as it doesn't negatively affect others.
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Old 04-11-2020, 04:46 PM
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Location: Sheffield, England
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I don't associate gloom with low visibility distance. I associate gloom with low LIGHT LEVELS, as in how bright/dark it is.
I didn't say you personally did. I was referring to the people who perpetuate the fog myth and started with ("a lot of the gloom stereotypes come from....."). And try not to capitalise words like that, it comes across a bit aggressive.

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Also, that is true about the summer days being long. However, sun angle would be lower in all seasons, and UV index by extension. Not to mention I prefer less difference between seasons in some ways anyways, especially daylight. And don't forget, as I live near Nashville (in the subtropics) and even consider our winters to be almost grey, I would basically consider pretty much anywhere even a few degrees further north than here to be grey, unless it was only about 5 degrees further north and had a very high percent possible sunshine (which would make it continental and thus nasty).
Bright enough for me in April and all of summer here. My God today was bright and burning on my eyes and it was only April 11.

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Old 04-11-2020, 05:04 PM
 
Location: Putnam County, TN
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I didn't say you personally did. I was referring to the people who perpetuate the fog myth and started with ("a lot of the gloom stereotypes come from....."). And try not to capitalise words like that, it comes across a bit aggressive.
Sorry. I thought you were referring to me too and didn't mean to come across as aggressive.
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Old 04-11-2020, 05:05 PM
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Location: Sheffield, England
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Well I sometimes do it too and have to try and "tone down" my posts sometimes.
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Old 04-14-2020, 11:56 AM
 
Location: Saint-Petersburg
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Climates of UK are better, because they have cooler and cloudier summers, colder winters and lower UV indexes.
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Old 04-14-2020, 04:24 PM
 
Location: Putnam County, TN
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Climates of UK are better, because they have cooler and cloudier summers, colder winters and lower UV indexes.
They have colder winters than most of the Deep South, but compared to the Upland South they're actually a bit milder (just without the warm and cold snaps the U.S. South gets).
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Old 04-16-2020, 05:40 AM
 
Location: Saint-Petersburg
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They have colder winters than most of the Deep South, but compared to the Upland South they're actually a bit milder (just without the warm and cold snaps the U.S. South gets).

I think there is no much difference between winter temperatures of Upland South and UK. (I think UK is slightly cooler than Upland South, because UK has climate like Lerwick with somewhat cold winters. There aren't much climates in Upland South with subfreezing winters)
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Old 04-16-2020, 02:26 PM
 
Location: SE UK
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I think there is no much difference between winter temperatures of Upland South and UK. (I think UK is slightly cooler than Upland South, because UK has climate like Lerwick with somewhat cold winters. There aren't much climates in Upland South with subfreezing winters)
I don't think Lerwick has cold winters (relative to the rest of the UK)!?
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Old 04-16-2020, 03:07 PM
 
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How is this even a fair battle? Lol
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Old 04-17-2020, 01:33 PM
 
Location: Saint-Petersburg
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I don't think Lerwick has cold winters (relative to the rest of the UK)!?

I say somewhat cold winters. There aren't many climates in Upland South with winter averages below freezing.
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