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Old 01-29-2017, 09:07 PM
 
Location: Sydney, Australia
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That's really sad. Canada seemed to be the last corner of the West that survived the rise of far right/Neo-Nazi lunacy the past couple of years, hopefully it's not a start of a trend
I hope not.

Now I wonder who would be blamed for this, the Islamic appeasing, white-hating SJW leftists or Trump?

Of course, leftist media would blame the latter and Fox news would be like "these insane protesting liberals provoked these shooters". Lol.

 
Old 01-29-2017, 09:10 PM
 
Location: Gatineau, Québec
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I hope not.

Now I wonder who would be blamed for this, the Islamic appeasing, white-hating SJW leftists or Trump?

Of course, leftist media would blame the latter and Fox news would be like "these insane protesting liberals provoked these shooters". Lol.
One local angle that will come out if the hate crime theory is confirmed is that Quebec City is ground zero for trash talk radio. Known in French as "radio poubelle".

These radio stations do not necessarily spout overtly racist stuff, but they're pretty borderline and nasty in their views.

I'd expect them to come under the microscope a lot more in the wake of this tragic event.
 
Old 01-30-2017, 07:27 AM
 
Location: Gatineau, Québec
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[SIZE=3][/SIZE]Quebec City mosque shooting suspects named:

Alexandre Bissonnette
Mohammed Khadir

[SIZE=3][/SIZE]My theory: they radicalized each other, wereturned away by a moderate mosque, got pissed off and sought revenge.
It's unrelated to ultra-right white nationalist groups.
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Old 01-30-2017, 07:49 AM
 
Location: Sydney, Australia
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I'm actually surprised that one of the shooters was a Muslim. I was convinced that this was a far-right terrorism act in the name of xenophobia and Christian conservatism, considering the frantic situation this week. I know Muslim on Muslim violence exists, but it just rarely happens in the western world.

But again, I really shouldn't be too shocked.
 
Old 01-30-2017, 07:52 AM
 
Location: Finland
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Inside Quebec's far right: Where do Quebec's extremist groups fit in? - Montreal - CBC News
 
Old 01-30-2017, 07:54 AM
 
Location: Gatineau, Québec
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I'm actually surprised that one of the shooters was a Muslim. I was convinced that this was a far-right terrorism act in the name of xenophobia and Christian conservatism, considering the frantic situation this week. I know Muslim on Muslim violence exists, but it just rarely happens in the western world.

But again, I really shouldn't be too shocked.
Well, my little theory aside, in fairness he could also be a lapsed Muslim who turned against the religion he was raised in.
 
Old 01-30-2017, 08:02 AM
 
Location: Sydney, Australia
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Well, my little theory aside, in fairness he could also be a lapsed Muslim who turned against the religion he was raised in.
I could see that.

But then again, they did yell "Allahu Akbar".
 
Old 01-30-2017, 08:03 AM
 
Location: Finland
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Wonder if Bissonnette is a convert?
 
Old 01-30-2017, 08:26 AM
 
Location: Gatineau, Québec
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Wonder if Bissonnette is a convert?
Some people have posted what they say is his Facebook page. I checked it out but there doesn't seem to be anything that indicates that.


Of course, people can hide such things as well. It's sometimes in their interest to do so.


As for yelling "allahu akhbar", islamophobic people might yell this to mock the people they are killing, so it's not necessarily indicative of anything either.
 
Old 01-30-2017, 08:32 AM
 
Location: Seoul
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Reminds me of the nightclub shooting, this situation. Probably a self-hating Muslim in this case
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