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Fillon stood a good chance until he became mired in corruption scandals, in classic French style. The fact that he continues to poll as high as he does is totally amazing. He is also France's answer to Thatcher, and that in itself is hardly likely to prove popular with French voters..
Macron, on the other hand, is able to portray himself as a centrist, unaffiliated. He served under the socialist government but was never actually a member of the socialist party. He is comparatively unknown so has far less baggage or negative connotations. The fact that he is reasonably young and attractive doesn't hurt either.
And Le Pen - she needs to appeal to more than her die-hard supporters to gain power, and right now she isn't doing that. I mean, France has been in a state of emergency since 2015, and the current front-runner (Macron) is pretty much the ultimate neo-liberal. This should be the perfect time for some right-wing populist to gain power.
Really, Macron hardly has to try at all, when the others are doing so terribly on their own.
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Would you support Fillon or Le Pen (or someone else) if you were French?
I have my reservations about the FN but I like Le Pen at a personal level - so I'd vote for her but Fillon's position on multiculturalism is far better than anything the centre-right has ever served up here. Le Pen denounced her antisemitic father which is a huge plus in my book, I could never ever have voted for that buffoon if I was French back in 2002.
Macron as dunno said served in a socialist government, so it's 100 % clear that he's a plant. Socialism is like a computer virus, it comes in all shapes and sizes.
I think and hope the assumptions that UMP/Républican supporters would automatically vote for a worst of both worlds metro neo-lib/socialist elitist like Macron over a populist candidate to the right are completely wrongfounded. The EU needs to collapse and the sooner the better. It's sheer lunacy that the left are so discredited they plant one of their own, call him a centrist because he has neo-liberal opinions on freedom of movement and then pretend he's not with them.
Hopefully rural France would tip it over for Le Pen in a straight showdown. It feels damn weird to support someone with that surname but like I said, she's not like her father and it's not her fault that she's his daughter. I don't think her open ties to Russia are helpful, but at least she doesn't hide it, which is a sigh of fresh air in itself.
Macron needs to lose, just like Trudeau needs to get wiped out major league big-time in 2019. So-called liberals are the worst traitors to their so-called titles by combining the worst aspects of the left with the worst of the right. Liberalism has been hijacked by insane people and needs to cease to exist. They've ruined every non-left government in this country for 40 years with their policies. The only positive role they ever can have is to hamper the vote for far-left parties in first past the post systems.
Macron isn't a socialist by any means. He is a huge advocate of free-market capitalism. He worked as an investment banker at Rothschild. Le Pen should be attacking him in the same way Trump did with Hillary.
I'd vote for the one that supports government health care for all
Oh you'd vote for all eight parties in Sweden then?
(except for me of course, I got charged with $40 for a mere minor check-up that I was sent to on recommendation two months back, so much for free health care. Of course it's all spent on... well... not natural born citizens that's for sure. Rather the EU and third-worlders.)
Macron isn't a socialist by any means. He is a huge advocate of free-market capitalism.
So he says. The EU is a fascist economical system designed to drive down wages to benefit a tiny elite, and our Champagne Socialist government supports it with all guns blazing!
Everyone knows the metropolitan left and the liberals are essentially the same thing in most countries now. Corbyn's one mistake is actually wanting to stop wage-dumping that's why even The Guardian are after him, aside from that he'd be on their team too.
But I understand. Both of these women are 48. Who is the daugher of Jean-Marie Le Pen and who isn't?
It's a heavy burden to carry.
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