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Old 07-13-2017, 03:03 PM
 
Location: Seoul
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Below 15*C? You gotta be kidding me
Even below 20C! It's humid here and when it's cloudy even 19C is going to fill chilly

 
Old 07-13-2017, 03:06 PM
 
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So those Benidorm averages are not even official (or using a standard timescale)? Someone needs to remove the climate box then, as it is very misleading...
It's already stated that those are 2000-2015 averages, and they are not official as there isn't any other official numbers available for it.

It must remain there just as many other small cities from Europe do (specially from Italy and Greece) and we haven't got more info that some WU stations or another non official websites and not during the NOAA averages. When we have to delete them from Wiki is when we have an official alternative. Just as what happens with Alicante, besides having warmer non official stations we keep the official one.

It's specifically pointed out on the climate chart on Wikipedia that the temps are for 15 years (2000-2015 as said before) and the station linked to the source is the WU one.
 
Old 07-13-2017, 03:08 PM
 
Location: Göle, Turkey
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Even below 20C! It's humid here and when it's cloudy even 19C is going to fill chilly
Nope. I think below 30*C is cold
 
Old 07-13-2017, 03:11 PM
 
Location: Portsmouth, UK
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It's already stated that those are 2000-2015 averages, and they are not official as there isn't any other official numbers available for it.

It must remain there just as many other small cities from Europe do (specially from Italy and Greece) and we haven't got more info that some WU stations or another non official websites and not during the NOAA averages. When we have to delete them from Wiki is when we have an official alternative. Just as what happens with Alicante, besides having warmer non official stations we keep the official one.

It's specifically pointed out on the climate chart on Wikipedia that the temps are for 15 years (2000-2015 as said before) and the station linked to the source is the WU one.
Why must it remain? It is 15 years of data from a personal weather station lol... The averages will not be accurate at all, it won't be of WMO standards, how can you compare them to official ones?

Wunderground stations should never be used on Wikipedia, if there is no official data then there is no climate box. Simple.
 
Old 07-13-2017, 03:13 PM
 
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I agree, only official readings should be used on Wikipedia. Otherwise it's potentially misleading.
 
Old 07-13-2017, 03:13 PM
 
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But it's still better than nothing my FG dear amigo, and it's perfectly stated. It's not stated AEMET averages for 1981-2010 but WU sourced and 2000-2015. Nowhere in Wikipedia says that the climate averages must be from official sources. They must be from the best source available, and stated with references (just as here). In this case WU is more trustworthy than "climate-data.org" or similar websites.

And those temps look very realistic tho. Winters are milder in Benidorm than elsewhere in the Valencian Community. March-November are almost akin to the official station of Alicante during 1981-2010!
 
Old 07-13-2017, 03:21 PM
 
Location: Portsmouth, UK
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But it's still better than nothing my FG dear amigo, and it's perfectly stated. It's not stated AEMET averages for 1981-2010 but WU sourced and 2000-2015. Nowhere in Wikipedia says that the climate averages must be from official sources. They must be from the best source available, and stated with references (just as here). In this case WU is more trustworthy than "climate-data.org" or similar websites.

And those temps look very realistic tho. Winters are milder in Benidorm than elsewhere in the Valencian Community. March-November are almost akin to the official station of Alicante during 1981-2010!
No it isn't. Nothing is better than 15 years of data from a PWS, where you don't know how it is set up, the location etc..

Every other climate box on Wikipedia uses official data. If there is no official data then there should be no climate box.

Wunderground isn't a reliable source.
 
Old 07-13-2017, 03:22 PM
 
Location: Castlederp
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Right, I'm gonna have a w*nk over this
 
Old 07-13-2017, 03:23 PM
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Location: Western Massachusetts
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PWS can be interesting, but I wouldn't want them used as a climate normal site. Non-official climate normals should be removed from wikipedia. It's annoying to look up the climate on wikipedia and then discover it's from an untrustworthy source.
 
Old 07-13-2017, 03:27 PM
 
Location: Göle, Turkey
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Bored of seeing writtings about 15th July Coup everywhere.

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