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Old 11-10-2016, 09:22 AM
 
Location: Leeds, UK
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On another note dunno. Given that you cringed at full US-Russia relations being resumed, what do you as a gay person think of the special friendship between all previous British governments (including Labour) and the gay-executing Saudis?
I think it's disgusting and hypocritical.

Why?

 
Old 11-10-2016, 09:24 AM
 
Location: Foreignorland 58 N, 17 E.
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I think it's disgusting and hypocritical.

Why?
I just wanted to know that you weren't a hypocrite just like many leftists are over Saudi Arabia
 
Old 11-10-2016, 09:31 AM
 
Location: Leeds, UK
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I just wanted to know that you weren't a hypocrite just like many leftists are over Saudi Arabia
As a general rule, we shouldn't be doing business with hostile regimes - not least ones that actively fund terrorist groups.
 
Old 11-10-2016, 09:32 AM
 
Location: United Kingdom
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I don't see why people and sucessive governments make such a fuss over gay marriage etc. Surely your sexuality is your own business..

How is someone going to know your gay if you don't tell them anyway.
 
Old 11-10-2016, 09:35 AM
 
Location: Leeds, UK
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I don't see why people and sucessive governments make such a fuss over gay marriage etc. Surely your sexuality is your own business..

How is someone going to know your gay if you don't tell them anyway.
Odd comment.
 
Old 11-10-2016, 09:36 AM
 
Location: Foreignorland 58 N, 17 E.
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I support gay marriage 100 % but am highly skeptical over gay adoption since I believe the state should contribute to kids growing up in a nuclear family as the ideal option.

So I'm halfway conservative, halfway liberal on that issue.
 
Old 11-10-2016, 09:38 AM
 
Location: Leeds, UK
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I support gay marriage 100 % but am highly skeptical over gay adoption since I believe the state should contribute to kids growing up in a nuclear family as the ideal option.

So I'm halfway conservative, halfway liberal on that issue.
I can understand that - though I don't think two men raising a child will destroy the family unit like some conservatives seem to think.

I don't really like kids anyway so I don't see myself adopting or anything.
 
Old 11-10-2016, 09:44 AM
 
Location: Foreignorland 58 N, 17 E.
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I can understand that - though I don't think two men raising a child will destroy the family unit like some conservatives seem to think.

I don't really like kids anyway so I don't see myself adopting or anything.
That is not my position, I just think of what's best for the child. I'm against single women adopting as well. Having kids is not a human right, and kids raised by one mother and one father tend to do far better in society

For me it's been very important to have my mum and dad together. I had a girlfriend a few years back who hardly ever met her dad growing up, that must have been horrible
 
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Location: Western Massachusetts
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I support gay marriage 100 % but am highly skeptical over gay adoption since I believe the state should contribute to kids growing up in a nuclear family as the ideal option.
Maybe it's the ideal, but gay parents are better than single parent families which are very common.
 
Old 11-10-2016, 09:47 AM
 
Location: Leeds, UK
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That is not my position, I just think of what's best for the child. I'm against single women adopting as well. Having kids is not a human right, and kids raised by one mother and one father tend to do far better in society

For me it's been very important to have my mum and dad together. I had a girlfriend a few years back who hardly ever met her dad growing up, that must have been horrible
I read somewhere that in the US, children raised by two women actually do better than children raised by a man and a woman, though the sample size is smaller.

Me and my sister were raised by a single mother and we both turned out fine. Having no dad is better than having a bad dad.
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