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What a win for Trump.... Just goes to show not everyone is a left-wing nut.
Hillary Clinton isn't even remotely left-wing though. If Bernie Sanders stood against Trump he would at the very least have done a lot better than Clinton, and might have just won it. He was very popular in the rust belt states.
Hillary Clinton isn't even remotely left-wing though. If Bernie Sanders stood against Trump he would at the very least have done a lot better than Clinton, and might have just won it. He was very popular in the rust belt states.
Bernie might have had it tougher to win Nevada, Colorado and Virginia though given they are more southern in nature than the rust-belt. Also Trump won Ohio by a massive margin, he may well have pulled it off. Bernie got spanked there in the popular vote. I'm not so sure about the turnout for Bernie in Florida either. It's all hypthetical at this point.
Bernie might have had it tougher to win Nevada, Colorado and Virginia though given they are more southern in nature than the rust-belt. Also Trump won Ohio by a massive margin, he may well have pulled it off. Bernie got spanked there in the popular vote. I'm not so sure about the turnout for Bernie in Florida either. It's all hypthetical at this point.
He would have probably won over Michigan and Wisconsin, but yes it's entirely hypothetical. I think he would have done a lot better in any case though. Bernie was against open borders too because he saw it as something right-wing business owners like.
He would have probably won over Michigan and Wisconsin, but yes it's entirely hypothetical. I think he would have done a lot better in any case though. Bernie was against open borders too because he saw it as something right-wing business owners like.
My electoral map Bernie vs Trump would have seen Bernie win WI, MI, PA and the elector in ME.
Then hold CO but lose NV and VA, with Trump holding FL and OH, taking him to a 278-260 win with Bernie landsliding California to win the electoral vote by 800 k.
Ah, winning the popular vote in the US is never a good thing.
I saw a map on reddit showing what the election results in Sweden would be like if they had a first past the post system. The Social Democrats would be even more dominant, lol. Would be a disaster for you.
Ah, winning the popular vote in the US is never a good thing.
I saw a map on reddit showing what the election results in Sweden would be like if they had a first past the post system. The Social Democrats would be even more dominant, lol. Would be a disaster for you.
Nope mate. The Alliance would form a single party or all voters right of centre would fall in line behind the Moderates like they do with the Tories in England. The left would continue to be split and lose out. The Alliance was larger than the SAP in all elections since 1998 if they were combined. Also the SD would drop some vote share were that to be the case - overwhelmingly to the Moderates. The two liberal parties would perhaps merge, but then they'd take a large share of dissatisfied SAP voters who weren't so keen on a Moderate government but are kind of liberal.
In a first past the post system I'd say a 200-149 win for the Alliance or a 180-169 win for the Moderates for the reasoning explained above.
The map just literally extrapolated the results as they currently are, they didn't take into consideration current parties merging to form new ones in order to block other parties from winning.
Sweden is 3rd on the democracy index, so I guess there's no need to change. UK is 16th, and the current system definitely helps the Tories more, and they want to redraw the constituency map it more favourable for them. The Tories are literally the only political party in the UK who oppose electoral reform, all the others support it, especially UKIP.
The map just literally extrapolated the results as they currently are, they didn't take into consideration current parties merging to form new ones in order to block other parties from winning.
I know, and that's why it's completely irrelevant for the actual reality were that to happen. Had we always had the first past the post-system the Moderates would be like the Tories with a soft-liner clique and a hard-liners clique holding together for the sake of avoiding Socialist takeover. The proportional system always helps centrists since they hold the balance of power, hence pushing out any kind of actual conservatism from the Moderates who become a diluted centrist party unlike the Tories under May now.
All I can say is that the Left Party voters often see the SAP as class-traitors and 'in league with the privatization agenda' and hence they would continue to see similar voting numbers 5-7 %, much like the Greens in England.
There would also be strong pockets of the Moderates/Alliance in mid-sized urban areas. They would take Southern Örebro easily for example in spite of Örebro in general being Red. Nyköping East would also fall in line to be a rightist win (as long as the constituency would be separated by the rail from the North if not it may be marginal), as would the Trosa/Gnesta constituency up the road, along with areas of Norrköping and Linköping. And that's just the surrounding area where I live, considered red strongholds. In 2010, the Moderates had almost a 40 % vote share in Trosa Municipality for example.
There would even be a Blue win in one of the two constituencies as far north as in Falun and a marginal win in a Gävle seat.
Also the well-populated areas in the south would be all-blue. Add to that fact: Stockholm County is like our London in terms of seat density. The blue dots around there would mean lots of seats, something like 50-15 last election even including the Green voters with the SAP.
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