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Old 05-08-2017, 09:23 AM
 
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There are 2 million EU citizens living in the UK, and 1 million UK citizens living in the EU. A one-million increase of working age people in an aging country, don't you know how jealous many EU countries are?
Exactly, a net increase of a million in a small island nation, most of which goes to England, which itself is the 2nd most populated country in Europe (ignoring the likes of Monaco). The obvious solution to an aging population is to increase the birth rate, rather than promoting contraception and small families, while the native population is replaced by young immigrants with higher birthrates.

If we need more people can easily bring them in under a controlled system, that's the beauty of it.

 
Old 05-08-2017, 09:30 AM
 
Location: Finland
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Exactly, a net increase of a million in a small island nation, most of which goes to England, which itself is the 2nd most populated country in Europe (ignoring the likes of Monaco). The obvious solution to an aging population is to increase the birth rate, rather than promoting contraception and small families, while the native population is replaced by young immigrants with higher birthrates.

If we need more people can easily bring them in under a controlled system, that's the beauty of it.

EU immigrants don't have higher birthrates than UK citizens. And a newborn person will be a cost for the next 20 years, it's a long term solution, not short-term.
 
Old 05-08-2017, 09:31 AM
 
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Crossing used to just check photo IDs, but Canada could still reject entry for nitpicky reasons [someone w/ a drunk driving conviction by law would need a special waiver including George Bush]. Some towns are built right on the border, and border formalities were often ignored. Controls got strict after 9/11. Like, "we know you, you're local, come right through". A town in Vermont has a library that's partially in Canada; 100 years ago locals didn't pay attention to the exact border. Border is too long and remote to patrols, though some spots have security cameras. There are some mountainous areas with hiking trails going across, but it'd be a challenge to access any inhabited US area that way. These climbers started in Canada to climb an American peak. Mountain 74 [scroll down] marks the border:


NWHikers.net - View topic - Hozomeen (6/30 - 7/1/07)

photo I took in the same Canada, may have down the same trail they started at but didn't go as far.



border is a couple miles in the foreground. A photo I took at the US-Canadian border after legally crossing; station is only open from 9-5, had to wait a little bit:



I think it's cool that they've created a line, that doesn't look too difficult to sneak through. That area is too vast and densely forested to patrol effectively, although I guess aircraft could be used.
 
Old 05-08-2017, 10:19 AM
 
Location: Seoul
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I think the US would be flooded with Argentinians in particular given how bad the economy still is in relative terms down there.

Personally I'm only fine with open borders to Sweden from:

Nordic countries
Australia
New Zealand

It should be easier for Brits, Canadians, Americans, Germans, Dutch, Belgians, Irish, French, Austrians, the Swiss, Italians, Spaniards and Portuguese to get in than for other groups though.
Meh, don't think so. Many Argentines have European ancestry so most of them would just go to Europe. Argentinians also dont have the same love affair with the US as some other Latinos. They would probably all flood Miami each year to buy cheaper electronics lol. Chile meanwhile is rapidly developing with a solid economy, most Chileans would know that the US isnt a big improvenent. Chile and Argentina themselves are having mass immigration from Venezuela, Haiti, Colombia, Bolivia, Paraguay, and Peru
 
Old 05-08-2017, 10:34 AM
 
Location: Finland
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Estonians are overwhelmingly the largest 'guest worker' force in Finland. Their work-enrollment is almost as good as among the native population. Most of these are some kind of professionals, and a small minority work in areas we Finns don't want to do. Only for a small part of the Estonians are competing with Finnish workers, most notably in construction. An Finnish mason won't be employed if an Estonian doctor leaves.


Exactly the same situation is in Britain. The foreigners aren't taking YOUR jobs, but jobs you won't do or have no qualification to do. The same chavs will remain unemployed both in Finland and Britain nevertheless.


And if you don't want refugees, what has the EU to do with it? During the 2015 migrant crisis Finland took 591 refugees per 100k citizens. Britain took 60. What's the problem?
 
Old 05-08-2017, 10:44 AM
 
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mostly poles and balts doing the construction work here. no swedes i'm aware of have problems with that. can't see why they're so despised in britain...
 
Old 05-08-2017, 10:59 AM
 
Location: Finland
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mostly poles and balts doing the construction work here. no swedes i'm aware of have problems with that. can't see why they're so despised in britain...

Can't see why you hate Jews so much when there's like 5000 of them in Sweden.
 
Old 05-08-2017, 11:30 AM
 
Location: 64'N Umeå, Sweden - The least bad Dfc
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The Swedes on this forum seems to consist of 50% nazis.
 
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Location: Western Massachusetts
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The Swedes on this forum seems to consist of 50% nazis.
There's 3 swedes here so it can't be 50%. Or are you excluding yourself?
 
Old 05-08-2017, 11:39 AM
 
Location: Finland
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How are we supposed to understand swedish? Get out of here with this antisemitic bull****

It was a list of prominent Jews in Sweden. The Bonnier family is truly very powerful, but the list ranged from newspaper photographers to local news journalists. Yeah, really NWO...
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