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Many areas have gotten to and below freezing many times this season so far. So whats up with MSP??
Not just MSP. Also: La Crosse, Wisconsin: November 9, 2016 (previous record: November 7, 1900)
Peoria, Illinois: November 12, 2016 (previous record: November 8, 1956)
And, several other cities across midwest very close to new record late freezing dates this fall.
Rochester only had its 24th latest freeze (October 31). November 14 was the latest on record back in 1938.
Up until November 13, 2016 has a mean of 53.6. This is the 3rd warmest ever after 1921 and 2012. The mean max is 63.6, 2cd highest after 2012 with 63.7.
It certainly isn't a misrepresentation at all given the insanely warm anomalies relative to average there. The entire Upper Midwest has been running extremely warm compared to average for a long time now. MPLS Intl has a heat island, but is nothing like the largest cities in the US.
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Originally Posted by Blind Cleric
Not just MSP. Also: La Crosse, Wisconsin: November 9, 2016 (previous record: November 7, 1900)
Peoria, Illinois: November 12, 2016 (previous record: November 8, 1956)
And, several other cities across midwest very close to new record late freezing dates this fall.
Totally missing the point...
The claim (while true) makes it sound like it's been so warm that it hasn't been below freezing anywhere.. That's far from the truth.
Look at all the areas that have gotten to freezing or colder...including parts of the south and TN Valley. That was my point. MSP is like NYC but then again, I wouldn't be surprised if they need to inspect that station.
13 times in St Cloud. THIRTEEN. Obviously that means the air mass was cold enough or lots of radiational cooling nights.
Capital Weather Gang’s winter outlook for D.C.: Colder than last year, but not as snowy
January has the best chance to be colder than normal
Our best chance of feeling the full weight of winter is in late December through late January, when we might see some persistent colder and stormier periods.
February looks to be pretty mild, and the possibility of an early end to winter is of higher probability than usual.
Outlook by the numbers
Temperatures
Overall, we expect temperatures for December through February (relative to 1981-2010 normals) to be slightly (around one degree) milder than average:
•December: Around average
•January: One degree colder than average
•February: Three degrees warmer than average
Snowfall
Our snowfall projection covers November through April (1981-2010 statistics in parentheses). Overall, we expect slightly to somewhat below normal snowfall:
•Reagan National Airport (DCA): 8-12 inches (compared with a 15.4-inch average, 11 inch median)
•Dulles International Airport (IAD): 14-18 inches (compared with a 22.0 inch average, 16 inch median)
•Baltimore-Washington International Marshall Airport (BWI): 12-16 inches (compared with a 20.1 inch average, 15 inch median)
•Fairfax, Loudoun, Montgomery counties: 12-20 inches
•Alexandria, Arlington and Prince George’s counties and the District: 10-14 inches
Qualifiers
While advances have been made in seasonal forecasting, there is still a great deal of uncertainty and limited skill in developing these outlooks. This is a low-confidence forecast.
Note that monthly temperature predictions are less reliable than for the whole season. A cold or warm pattern lingering a week too long or ending a week short can greatly alter a monthly average. Furthermore, it takes only one big snowstorm for us to near or exceed our seasonal average.
The claim (while true) makes it sound like it's been so warm that it hasn't been below freezing anywhere.. That's far from the truth.
Look at all the areas that have gotten to freezing or colder...including parts of the south and TN Valley. That was my point. MSP is like NYC but then again, I wouldn't be surprised if they need to inspect that station.
13 times in St Cloud. THIRTEEN. Obviously that means the air mass was cold enough or lots of radiational cooling nights.
The claim (while true) makes it sound like it's been so warm that it hasn't been below freezing anywhere.. That's far from the truth.
Look at all the areas that have gotten to freezing or colder...including parts of the south and TN Valley. That was my point. MSP is like NYC but then again, I wouldn't be surprised if they need to inspect that station.
13 times in St Cloud. THIRTEEN. Obviously that means the air mass was cold enough or lots of radiational cooling nights.
6 times Rochester, MN
4 times Lincoln Nebraska.
ect. ect.
No, not missing the point- you need to accept the reality that 2016 will be the warmest year on record globally. Need we mention the 36C above average anomalies at the North Pole?
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