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You forgot to mention the most beautiful Jacaranda. In South Africa they are amazing I have heard.
The problem is that I visited during the South African winter, which isn't bloom time for those plants (happens in late spring).
Also, jacarandas look hardy enough to grow in Houston and New Orleans. The Jacaranda is a USDA zone 9 plant, same as the queen palm, and can grow even in Southern Oregon.
Houston and New Orleans grow lots of queen palms, and are warmer than Southern Oregon, so they shouldn't have a problem with Jacarandas. If not those two cities, then at least places in their metros (like Galveston, or Grand Isle).
The worst part of eastern North America is that when we get cold, it goes all the way down into FL almost always. As you saw from those temps. Show me how often a cold front with brutal cold temps stops over North Carolina and Charleston basks in mild weather while we shiver with cold? It just almost never happens. We get cold, they get cold. It isn't like that in other places in the world where cold gets greatly reduced or modified by the time it gets to the latitude of Atlanta.
Could not be further from the truth, 1934 philly went down to -11, Raleigh was around 8. This year, philly is at 8 Raleigh is at 15, and places further south such as Fayetteville only around 20. Happens a lot more than you think. Also when was the last time a windmill grew in philly unprotected? Sabal palms? Raleigh is greener and grows more than what philly can, I don't think you can deny that, also forest compositions are different, at one point sabal minors range extended to right around Raleigh, unfortunately the last sabal minors in the area growing in the wild were cleared in the 1940s. For greener ill post some google streetview links from Raleigh. For nights below 32 they are fairly close and extremes even more so, wonder what those numbers would look like if philly was a smaller city and a little bit further inland.
2000-2016 base period Max/Min also from 2000-2016
Philly
below 32:80 Max:91 Min:54
Below 28: 52 Max: 67 Min: 20
Below 20: 17 Max: 30 Min: 5
Below 15: 7 Max: 18 Min: 0
Below 10: 3 Max: 8 Min: 0
Number of times sub zero in history: 21 years saw sub zero
Raleigh
Below 32: 67 Max: 87 Min:44
Below 28: 40 Max: 56 min: 20
Below 20: 8 Max: 18 Min:1
Below 15: 2 Max: 6 Min: 0
Below 10: 0 Max: 3 Min: 0
Number of years that have gone subzero in history: 3
Could not be further from the truth, 1934 philly went down to -11, Raleigh was around 8. This year, philly is at 8 Raleigh is at 15, and places further south such as Fayetteville only around 20. Happens a lot more than you think.
Wrong. Nice try find the very few times a cold front stalled between us. In reality, when brutal cold comes it blows all the way down to Florida time and again. Why not list all the times we got cold, and you got cold? And the point is, if I went to 8F and you went to 15F, we both went well below avg didn't we? And doesn't that mean the front went thru both places? My point exactly. How cold did Raleigh get in Jan 2014?
As you notice these links are from February 2016. January 2016 was more than 3 degrees below average and February for the most part was below average and only finished average because of 5 really warm days in the 70s. This one is my favorite streetviews, flowering roses , flowering cherry tree during February.
As you will notice by now, shocker, there are broadleaf evergreen trees and bushes everywhere. Hell in this last link if you head down a bit you will see a house with multiple large windmill palms.
Wrong. Nice try find the very few times a cold front stalled between us. In reality, when brutal cold comes it blows all the way down to Florida time and again. Why not list all the times we got cold, and you got cold? And the point is, if I went to 8F and you went to 15F, we both went well below avg didn't we? And doesn't that mean the front went thru both places? My point exactly. How cold did Raleigh get in Jan 2014?
So you are going to ignore 1934, you were at -11 and I was at 8???? hell in 1936 Richmond was at -10 and I was in the teens.
In Texas, there is always some limiting factor that prevents this pure subtropical perfection that you get in Durban.
The northern coast of Houston/Galveston and Beaumont has the wet lushness, but the water isn't as clear, and the winters are cooler than Durban (although Galveston has mild lows). Also, the large population is too centered away from the coast; Houston should have been built closer to Galveston, so that there would be more connection between the two. If there is something that can fix Galveston's water, then the beaches will always be clear, and Houston will become a greater tourist destination.
The southern Texas coast has warm winters, but is far too arid in climate. If it had higher population, and less poverty, then it would be more developed.
Years ago I worked with a Texas expatriate (not in Texas). His favorite saying was, "If I had a farm in Texas and a home in Hell, I'd sell the farm and go home."
Subtropical is a gradient, and it looks like Durban is on the tropical end of that gradient. I wonder which continent has Tom77falcon's favorite subtropical climates?
Subtropical is a gradient, and it looks like Durban is on the tropical end of that gradient. I wonder which continent has Tom77falcon's favorite subtropical climates?
You went from promoting the Gulf Coast as the premier subtropical climate to riding Tom's dick. A complete 180. I don't understand what you want. You went from talking about the cold epoch to talking about how us subtropical climates are ****ty. Completely 2 different ends on the spectrum.
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