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The premise on this one is a climate located on a small isolated flat island roughly 900 km west of Madeira (32 N in the mid-Atlantic). Unlike Funchal it is not shielded from northerly blasts in summer, which renders lower maximum temperatures (a September mean of 21.8 C is as warm as it gets)
In contrast during winters, there is no cool air coming down from any mountains during nights, keeping them extremely mild, and the January mean ends up at 17.9 C.
The precipitation is kept more evenly than Madeira to rule the mediterranean climate out of the equation.
The question for you folks is whether this climate should be classified as:
1, Oceanic (thanks to the 21.8/17.9 range + Köppen says so dammit )
2, Subtropical (every single month well above 15 C in mean temps)
3, Tropical (the 17.9 daily mean in January and the frequent > 16 Jan/Feb nights)
My personal opinion is subtropical. For me a tropical climate ought to have a month above at least 24 C to qualify for that title and although ultra-maritime it is way to warm to be oceanic since subtropical and some tropical plants obviously enjoy themselves there. It can't be oceanic if the coldest night of the year falls to 13.9 C...
Firmly subtropical. No tropical climate would have 4 months with a maximum below 21C and it's much too warm, with too low of a seasonal range, for an Oceanic climate.
Being Oceanic doesn't preclude Subtropical and some tropical plants from enjoying themselves though. Many Oceanic climates can support subtropical vegetation, and some tropical vegetation.
This is very tough. I want to say oceanic because of the very mild temperatures with a tiny diurnal range and very little day to day or month to month variation. Also, it has lower sunshine than expected for the warm temperatures and modetate precipitation. These are clearly features of a climate heavily influenced by its position on the ocean. It is also at 32N so winters are very warm for the lattotude, a feature caused by heavy coastal moderation. It is warm year round and definitely has more subtropical characteristics than oceanic features but it is definitely influenced much more by its coastal location than its subtropical latitude. I'll hesitantly go oceanic.
This is very tough. I want to say oceanic because of the very mild temperatures with a tiny diurnal range and very little day to day or month to month variation. Also, it has lower sunshine than expected for the warm temperatures and modetate precipitation. These are clearly features of a climate heavily influenced by its position on the ocean. It is also at 32N so winters are very warm for the lattotude, a feature caused by heavy coastal moderation. It is warm year round and definitely has more subtropical characteristics than oceanic features but it is definitely influenced much more by its coastal location than its subtropical latitude. I'll hesitantly go oceanic.
If I'd put January 0.2 C warmer (18.1/64.2 F) would you have considered tropical (which it'd be under both Köppen and Trewartha) or do you feel summers are too cool for it?
If I'd put January 0.2 C warmer (18.1/64.2 F) would you have considered tropical (which it'd be under both Köppen and Trewartha) or do you feel summers are too cool for it?
Idk, technically it would be tropical with year-round warmth but it just seems a tropical climate should take primary influence from a low latitude but this place seems to just be warm from its extreme coastal moderation due to its island location as it's at 32N. It just seems more like a warm climate that happens to be very moderated by the ocean rather than a tropical climate. Also, it's too far away from the tropics so it doesn't take any I flinch from being at a low near-tropical latitude. I'd say just a very warm oceanic climate,
A subtropical oceanic climate. Subtropical temperatures, oceanic variation (or rather, lack of variation).
I don't think any Cfb climate has such a low (3.9C)seasonal range as this climate, and many Cfb climates have bigger seasonal ranges than many Cfa climates, so I don't think that is a valid point.
Only a tropical climate could have a range this low
Idk, technically it would be tropical with year-round warmth but it just seems a tropical climate should take primary influence from a low latitude but this place seems to just be warm from its extreme coastal moderation due to its island location as it's at 32N. It just seems more like a warm climate that happens to be very moderated by the ocean rather than a tropical climate. Also, it's too far away from the tropics so it doesn't take any I flinch from being at a low near-tropical latitude. I'd say just a very warm oceanic climate,
If it'd be caused by really cool ocean waters and be at say 20 S outside of Namibia then? Would that make any difference?
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